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Wednesday, October 7th, 2015 8:59 PM

We need to get some upvoting on AT&T to carry the Lumia 950 XL

Come on Windows 10 Mobile junkies - let's get some votes for AT&T to carry the 950 XL. I don't want to wait and I don't want to pay the full price up front at the Microsoft Store. Add a comment and let's get their attention.

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3 Messages

8 years ago

I demand that AT&T carry the 950 XL!  I have waited YEARS for the perfect Lumia offering, and this is it.  I am still using the 920 and have held off on upgrading because the phones that Nokia/Micorosft put out prior to this have not met my personal expectations.  I'm sure that there are many out there who are just like me in that respect.  If AT&T does not carry the XL, I will just purchase it at the Microsoft Store, and give them my money.  Ultimately, it will be AT&T's loss!  They need to understand that they need to cater not only to the ignorant mass consumer market with their malware and bug ridden Android phones and old, tired, and borring iPhones, but also to the serious and knowledgable consumer, who demand and expect nothing less than the best.  The 950 XL is THE BEST smart phone on the planet, bar none, and AT&T NEEDS to carry it, period!

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1 Message

8 years ago

exatly what i did...changed to att to get a 1520. that being said to keep me will be the availability of a 950XL. come on att!

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8 years ago


@themoon73 wrote:

I demand that AT&T carry the 950 XL!  I have waited YEARS for the perfect Lumia offering, and this is it.  I am still using the 920 and have held off on upgrading because the phones that Nokia/Micorosft put out prior to this have not met my personal expectations.  I'm sure that there are many out there who are just like me in that respect.  If AT&T does not carry the XL, I will just purchase it at the Microsoft Store, and give them my money.  Ultimately, it will be AT&T's loss!  They need to understand that they need to cater not only to the ignorant mass consumer market with their malware and bug ridden Android phones and old, tired, and borring iPhones, but also to the serious and knowledgable consumer, who demand and expect nothing less than the best.  The 950 XL is THE BEST smart phone on the planet, bar none, and AT&T NEEDS to carry it, period!


Att does not care anymore where you get your phones...  As for malware ridden android phone where in world did you come up with that.  Security flaws yes but then again windows has those also along with apple.  Its software someone will always make a mistake.

 

Microsoft is being hush hush on the 950xl for some reason when it comes to who will sell it.

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3 Messages

8 years ago

Where did I come up with malware ridden Android phones?  Are you kidding me?  Aside from having delt with my fair share of them personally as a network engineer and administrator, how about this:

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/03/24/report-97-of-mobile-malware-is-on-android-this-is-the-easy-way-you-stay-safe/

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45345981/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/android-malware-problems-continue-grow/#.Vhe1mu9dGUk

 

http://www.techhive.com/article/2030331/researches-android-malware-problem-is-not-hyped.html

 

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-malware-solution-latest-software-236610/

 

https://blog.kaspersky.com/android-malware/4770/

 

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2476573/malware-vulnerabilities/your-android-has-a-fake-id-problem--allowing-malware-to-impersonate-trusted-.html

 

http://www.mobileburn.com/23064/news/5-million-android-users-have-malware-problems

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2988211/android/new-android-vulnerabilities-put-over-a-billion-devices-at-risk-of-remote-hacking.html

 

Believe me, I can go on.

 

And how about this:

 

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224

 

versus this:

 

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/23230/Microsoft-Windows-Phone.html?vendor_id=26

 

 

Android is but a cheap, messy, vulnerable, and insecure iOS knock-off that is designed with quantity in mind over quality in order to keep the ignorant and unsuspecting masses fat, happy, and satisfied/pacified with a ridiculously bloated app market that's crammed with crap that they think they want and need, whilst, unbeknownst to them, the popular "security" app they installed is actually malware itself, compromising their personal information while they blissfully sing along to the latest Taylor Swift single blaring through their Beats Audio speakers.  Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile is quite the opposite.  Microsoft is serious about quality, security, functionality, and innovation.  The Lumia 950 and, especially the 950 XL is a hallmarked testament and prime example of this.  Furthermore, AT&T may not care where I purchase my phone, but they certainly should, as there are profits from phone sales.

 

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8 years ago

@themoon73

 

Those are security FLAWS not MALWARE.  That is what I was getting at... I have used iOS Android and windows mobile os and never had a infection.  But then again just like with windows or mac you have to be carefull where you go and what you download.  I will agree google has had its share of security issues.  But to say lollipop and Marshmellow have not made inroads in security is false.

 

But then again the numbers are what hackers look at do I attack 2.9% of the mobile market which is windows phone or the 78% of the mobile market that is android?  There going to pick the one where they can extort the most money....

 

its not like microsoft is clean when it comes to security flaws either

 

http://www.cvedetails.com/product-list/product_type-/vendor_id-26/firstchar-/page-7/products.html?sha=55dce7eebeda5933684eaf182fc2aed11ccb8766&trc=400&order=1

 

Now I will be picking up the 950xl to have in the house and replace the 1520 I have on my desk.  I have a pile of phones on my desk....  I do think microsoft finally gets it but the question is if its to little to late.  Not adding CDMA radio's to the 950 series to me was a miss but then again Verizon has little love for windows mobile.

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3 Messages

8 years ago

No, it is serious security vulnerabilities AND malware infections.  Perhaps, you haven't experienced it yourself on your phone, but I have seen plenty of examples of it first hand, and these reports and news articles discuss both.  This is a discussion about smart phone security, not vulnerabilities (patched, as they may be) discovered within every Microsoft product since the beginning of time.  Microsoft has a very tightly controlled and regulated app marketplace combined with high standards and requirements for app development and approval, whereas, Google's model has far looser and less restrictive standards and oversight, which is a recipe for disaster in terms of security.  I understand that Android is a bigger target, but they don't help matters with their weak governance of their open standards, having led to the wild west of app development and availability.  Honestly, if you had to carry sensitive data around on your smart phone, which platform would you, personally, trust more to ensure its security and protection?  Before you answer that question, you might want to have a look at this:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/scary-exploit-may-let-hackers-target-nearly-50-202005414.html

 

 

 

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8 years ago

@themoon73

 

Depends on the DATA and how its stored which device I would chose...  I dont have my life in my mobile device like I have seen some people do.

 

The problem with android is 3rd party app stores which you dont see on windows mobile or iOS.  This has allowed infections to go unchecked.  Look at iOS 250k were infected with jailbroken phones.  I agree android is the wild west in some aspects because of the open source part of the os.  The other problem is the amount of cheap devices being produced using old android os releases.  

 

I do think google has done better with security with the last 2 releases of android.  My big thing right now with mobile os's is payments...  Like samsung pay android pay and apple pay....  These things alone are making google and apple shore up there os platforms.  Hence all the android moding sites going nuts since android pay cant work on rooted or custom tomed phones.  I hope to see microsofts mobile payment solution but there is not that much info on it....

 

http://www.mobilepaymentstoday.com/articles/june-mobile-payments-5-for-5-apple-google-and-microsoft/

 

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/04/microsoft-payments-may-join-apple-android-samsung-in-pay-platforms/

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8 years ago

Using a 1520 now, would love to upgrade to a [1530/a true 1520 successor] but in the meantime am hoping ATT will have the 950xl.

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8 years ago

I have been using my 920 for the last 3 year with I higher level of confidence then I ever had with any Android phone. I don't have my whole life on my phone but I would like a level of assurance that it is more secure than the Apple or Android phones.

 

As for the Apple Pay or Samsung Pay, I could care less about either.   This Pay thing really should be a universal pay system that can work on all phones regardless of the OS.  Maybe Microsoft will bridge this gap as well and make a universal pay system that can working on all platforms.  Since the have taken the initiative to make Office, the Microsoft Band and their apps work on Android and Apple phones, this would be no different.  Understandably it would need to be an accepted pay system but why does each pay system need to be dedicated to architecture.

 

As for sales of Microsoft phones, I wish carriers would quit  putting the Microsoft Phones on the back self in the corner and start training up their sales representative to sell Microsoft products alongside the Apple and Andriod products.  More than once, a rep has approached me to try a sell me an Apple or Android phone but never seems to have a clue about Microsoft phones they sell.

 

I have never seen ATT take much effort in selling Microsoft products.

 

[Please keep it courteous]

 

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8 years ago

I checked out the 950 XL last night at my local Microsoft store and I was surprised to see how light in weight it is compared to my 1520. It is smaller than the 1520 which was the only disappointment for me, other than that the phone is beautiful and doesnt look or feel cheap, definitely premium. Camera was very fast at loading on a beautiful screen. I liked it so much, I preordered the black unlocked one while I was there, no more AT$$T branding on my next WP! I wish it was at least 6 inches like the 1520 but I can live with that.

 

I'm glad MS is selling unlocked phones, they should have done that from the start and cut out the greedy carriers. Also, MS Pay is coming.

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