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Wed, Jan 22, 2020 6:30 AM

3rd party definition (2 part)

This may stab really deep to AT&T but all employees of AT&T that follow these questions take note. Please also this question is for you........

—Can you define the terminology of 3rd party per written and AT&T defined policy definition??

NIGHTOWLS

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The community is largly customer populated. I know of one employee that participate regularly - as a customer.

As for 3rd party. You and at&t would be 1 and 2 (if referring to your relationship). Everyone else connected is 3rd party; Samsung, Apple, Google, Asurion, for example. Also credit bureaus if you add new service or default

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I want to reach customers more then AT&T it’s self. Here I will explain more in honestly just a short I want to try and get as many consumers attention.

With your third party, answer you are not correct that is what they want you to think however. Which a week ago I would have answered in the same fashion. Your answer is exactly why I decided to do this. 😉

But to fully answer your response I will add definition of 3rd party.

——A third party is someone who is not one of the main people involved in a business agreement or legal case, but who is involved in it in a minor role. You can instruct your bank to allow a third party to remove money from your account.

I’m going to refear back to you answer, I quote you stated, “Everyone else connected is 3rd party; Samsung, Apple, Google, Asurion, for example“ I want to first say again don’t feel bad, imwould have thought the same! However to answer your question with out fully answering all of my question myself, I will just say all you mentioned are (affiliates, subsidiary’s of AT&T) no 3 credit bureaus are just as titles Private credit agencies to report positive and negative credit.

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@lizdance40 With your response I would incurrage you to read, at least Privacy Policy’s take note of dates in effect.

Effective March 16,2020

https://about.att.com/sites/web_policy

Current/past

https://about.att.com/ecms/dam/csr/privacy/ATT-Privacy-Policy-1902.pdf

But when you also include Agreement of service. You will see the compliant issue of contradiction.

https://about.att.com/ecms/dam/csr/privacy/ATT-Privacy-Policy-1902.pdf

Agreement of Service is very long and you will have to read to understand in full. But even just a over read will give you conclusion of compliant with their own current Privacy Policies!!

I want to ask if you could help me get my posts seen by more I am actually building a website it is almost finished. It will be the main source of my YouTube channel and Blogs besides here and other areas! So please help this is one think I think people need to know but just wait it’s going to get really good!

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@Nightowl1 A third party is someone who is not one of the main people involved in a business agreement or legal case, but who is involved in it in a minor role. You can instruct your bank to allow a third party to remove money from your account.

And my example was correct. You and at&t have a business agreement for cell service. Anyone else is 3rd party, and I listed examples of those. Asurion is a 3rd party insurance provider, that you give permission to bill through at&t.

You and your bank have an agreement, anyone else is a 3rd party. Like anyone you have auto payment/EFT agreements.

So want to try again?

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Of course I have read the Privacy policies. Why do you think I knew how to locate the links to them?

If you go on to Verizon or T-Mobile website you're going to find very similar agreements


This is a community forum, I would recommend you read the guidelines and stay within them. You can see how many have viewed your post by looking at the little eye 👁️symbol

If you are going to post implied allegations without actual facts, you are going to find that most of us are going to take your comments with a grain of salt. Some might even wonder if you need to remove your foil hat and rejoin Society. Sorry but that's the way things go around here. We deal in facts and Truth, not speculation. Especially if you are withholding information. That comes off very sketchy.

If you have something to say go ahead and say it. If you have a complaint against AT&T that has some teeth, file an FCC complaint.

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ok here it is short and sweet!

I’m trying to get a following but as you put it it won’t be heard because of the way I’ll have to post.

So in which I’ll still post here as I am, but not that I had planned!

I’ll leave it to my webpage I’m in process of creating! It is going to seem to be info all may know in partial but leave to my page to break down if you want to follow.

The reasons I asked the questions I did are honestly get answers like the one I did.

Our rights, “yes I say plural” are being walked on and companies like at&t are getting power because of their technology. The government is allowing them to do so because of personal intrests and personal gain they receive. The only way to stop it and amended what needs to be amended is by getting attention of others.

If you don’t believe me get to know are laws and regulations to protect us as consumers. But then read all agreements all carriers like AT&T have set in place plus their newly ratified private policies and old. Note the difference.

Please don’t take lightly it is fact. That AT&T and other carriers profit more by selling our info then we could think. But it’s info that is protect by our laws just not yet ratified with modern technology. Plan and simple.

Thanks page will be up by next couple of days I will explain there further. But don’t hesitate to ask me anything I want your opinions. Just as I you that I promise , please listen. (Edited per community guidelines) just call and ask in country rep you will stumble their words because they don’t see it either.

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Blah blah blah.. I will send you a roll of tin foil. The carriers do not even have close to the data to sell as google apple facebook or microsoft do.

Also I suggest you read the terms of service as legal remedies against most carriers are limited by the nice little arbitration agreements we all agree to when we use service. Thanks SCOTUS for that one.

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Let's not forget Amazon.

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This is kind of reminiscent of the entire Facebook Senate hearings. The fact is customers give consent any time they use a device or software/program.

If you're like me, you read things before you sign or click on 'accept'. ( because if you don't you have a lot of nerve complaining about it later).
I am quite sure that most people do sign or click on accept and have absolutely no idea what they just agreed to.

Case in point: every customer who, on their way out of a carrier, complains that they're not getting a refund or a prorated bill.
Or everyone who signs up for a phone promotion but has absolutely no idea what the requirements of the promotion were.

Now I'm going to say the words peanut butter so that my Google home will hear me and it will show up in the margins as advertising. 😂

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I have to say you are correct the phone manufacturers and Asurion are yes 3rd party. I was stating incorrect just as how far off base you are.

Tin foil hat lol! Well I have turned in Moderation! I Have sent in letters of compliacy to not one but three agencies. I know how it works.

I’m so far off base, that at least I pluralize Privacy Policies. I know the front and back of all AT&T agreements and privacy POLOCIES (plural)

For one if your going to try and make some one out to be an (Edited per community guidelines) look in the mirror.

I only came here because companies like AT&T spit on there last current Privacy Polocy (singular) and we have a Federal Communicantions Commission that does not apply most telecommunication regulations on wireless carriers.!

So we are a little behind.

Which then all service providers started selling data to 3rd parties. (No Lizdance40 probably not the ones that come to your mind) You say you know it all because you read it all. Well then I’d have a choice name to call you(..............) but ill stop at that.

Lizdance40 quite reading the first things that pop up on your browser! Remember AT&T subsadaries and affiliates control your internet. Lol

No but really there is 1 Service Agreement (don’t say oh I’ve read it) but their is 2 Privacy Policies. I stated one is hard to find, but you know, ok! I’ll post it here. It’s a huge difference in policies.

Now I posted this as current Policy! Go read the new (FULL) version (Lizdance40)

Also do your self a favor and start reading your contracts and agreements! Because if you actually did and UNDERSAND it then y’all wouldn’t be knocking me. Lol y’all are a joke though (Edited per community guidelines) near teacher pets huh (Edited per community guidelines)😂

Well I’ll let you two get back to dusting off your knees.

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Some examples of who we share your Personal Information with:

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Were I still an At&t customer that would be good advice. Been there, done that.
But so what? What's your point?
Do you really think people are unaware? Have you seen the Facebook Senate hearing? Have you seen any of the Articles regarding Amazon Alexa or the Google home device?

Are you aware of how much information your home ISP has about you?

Unless you plan on pulling a Ted Kaczynski and go living in a garden shed in the woods, you are sharing information everyday. Nothing is private.

But I am a Verizon customer, and I read their information, terms of service, and privacy policies, which do not differ significantly from AT&T.
Now how about those third parties? Every time I use Google, one of the several dozen applications that are on my phone, or access a website, when I signed up for Facebook, etc, I could go on and on. All of these have terms of service and policies and warn you, your information is not private once you are sharing it online.

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