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Saturday, January 11th, 2020 3:03 AM

Fixed Wireless High Packet Loss

We've had AT&T's Fixed Wireless internet service for about 7 months now and haven't had any issues up until this week. But our internet packet loss has been stuck between 40-55% for about 4 days now. Speed tests show our download speed to be ~60 Mbps and upload ~10 Mbps, but the packet loss makes the internet almost unusable. I've tried AT&T's troubleshooting tool several times, checked all of the wires & outdoor antenna, restarted the whole system, and tested devices that are connected directly into the router with no luck. Any suggestions?

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4 years ago

Has AT&T responded to anyone about getting their network engineering teams to review?

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4 years ago

Just wanted to chime in on this. My experience matches pretty much everyone elses here to a T. Had Fixed Wireless for about 6 months and it was so much better than I had anticipated. Very soli., Around December my wife and I both noticed that at night the internet was becoming unusable. I work from home so I started monitoring speedtests throughout the day and noticed that around 3-3:30 every day the performance just dove off of a cliff. During "bad" times 80% of speed tests (Google built in) return less than a Mb and then the odd one will get 20-25. During normal operation prior to "the change" I was getting 40-60 down regularly.

So, after monitoring for a while I called and got a tech out today. It went as expected. He called to have the tower check, etc. The guy on the phone said they saw the request "jump towers", the tech went out and altered the antenna, came in and said the speed test was acting weird showing 5Mb a few times but now its showing 40. I told him thats kinda what ive been seeing during the day. Generally pretty solid but random 5Mb. At night, constant .5 down and basically unusable.

I had always expected that given the 3:30 timing it was congestion on the tower, but I dont think thats all it is because this area absolutely did NOT see a large influx of Fixed users at the same time.

Now for the interesting part. The tech called a few of his peers who have the most experience, one of whom he described as one of the more experienced installers in the state. He said the issue is widespread and told the tech he isnt gonna be able to fix it. He also said he was told that it coincides with work ATT has been doing on the towers to "upgrade to next gen" hardware they intend to roll out. Something that uses a new network of towers. Maybe this?

"AT&T is also starting to use unlicensed Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS) 3.5 GHz spectrum for fixed wireless within the government’s Connect America Fund Phase 11 (CAF-II) program. "

https://www.fiercewireless.com/operators/at-t-expects-2020-start-major-5g-handset-upgrade-cycle-exec-says

He said the target date for the client rollout is Q1 2020 which also coincides with a deadline ATT is coming up on regarding federal contract. He also mentioned that around Christmas he was offered training on installing these "next gen" systems which require some sort of Certification instead of the 8 hr train course that was required for what they're doing now.

Now, I work at a massive company and I know how a lot of stuff like this start through water cooler talk, so I fully acknowledge that ALL of this could be [EDITED].

The one thing I do know is this is obviously not isolated and ATT has got to be fully aware of it and they need to get it fixed. I insisted, even though he couldnt fix it, that he log a problem ticket that indicates there are problems that he was unable to address.

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It's the same thing we are all experiencing they my be rerouting traffic through towers that normally don't see that amount of traffic while there upgrading stuff. Even lately during off peak times my latency has shot up from 52 to 90ms. All thes

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That's funny in the middle of posting my lat post I got rerouted to a different page hmm strange.these are all time related happenings to the time of day but they will keep us going on the merry go round with tech support.

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Ditto for me. ​ Fixed Wireless started running like *** awhile back. ​ Was perfect before, i'd recommend it to anyone who had access too it. Now? Blah. ​

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I'm in the same boat. Worked great until late December. Now it's almost un-useable. Its definitely on their side. MTR shows packet loss on their switches. Tech told me nothing he could do. East Texas, btw.

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Its funny I'm playing my game today got kicked of several times I noticed if I stopped playing and sat there for 5 minutes it would go from 800ms back down to 75 as soon as I started moving again it shot up so annoying.

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4 years ago

Even in the AM, getting about 20% packet loss starting at 107.77.162.116

Source: whois.arin.netIP Address: 107.77.162.116 Name: ATT-MOBILITY-LLCHandle: NET-107-64-0-0-1Registration Date: 2/4/11Range: 107.64.0.0-107.127.255.255Org: AT&T Mobility LLCOrg Handle: ATTMO-3Address: 16631 NE 72nd Way

ATTN: IP Management

City: RedmondState/Province: WAPostal Code: 98052Country: United State

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@mickronson205 This must be an extremely well-trafficked and indexed webpage for a literal spambot to find us and make their only post in our thread.

That tells me a lot of people are having this problem and are finding this.

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4 years ago

No answer from AT&T on this yet? Sounds like a LOT of folks having this issue. Can't believe CSRs and techs don't know this is an issue at this point.

#1
- RTT [ms]: 3.6
- Probe Send Time: 09:13:57
- IP Address: 192.168.1.254
- Hostname: homeportal
- TTL: 64

#2
- RTT [ms]: 5.4
- Probe Send Time: 09:13:57
- IP Address: (edit)
- TTL: 63

#3
- RTT [ms]: 1291.7
- Probe Send Time: 09:13:57
- IP Address: 172.20.0.10
- TTL: 61

#4
- RTT [ms]: 1725.4.
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:04
- IP Address: 172.20.0.194
- TTL: 252

#5
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:08

#6
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:22

#7
- RTT [ms]: 1504.5
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:35
- IP Address: 107.77.162.116
- Hostname: mobile-107-77-162-116.mobile.att.net
- TTL: 248
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US

#8
- RTT [ms]: 150.4
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:41
- IP Address: 12.249.2.9
- TTL: 247
- AS Number: AS7018
- AS Name: AT&T Services, Inc.
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US
- Time Zone: America/New_York
- Region: FL
- City: Rockledge

#9
- RTT [ms]: 112.5
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:46
- IP Address: 12.83.188.242
- TTL: 243
- AS Number: AS7018
- AS Name: AT&T Services, Inc.

#10
- RTT [ms]: 116.4
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:47
- IP Address: 12.122.2.225
- Hostname: cgcil21crs.ip.att.net
- TTL: 244
- AS Number: AS7018
- AS Name: AT&T Services, Inc.

#11
- RTT [ms]: 116.0
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:47
- IP Address: 12.122.99.93
- Hostname: gar26.cgcil.ip.att.net
- TTL: 245
- AS Number: AS7018
- AS Name: AT&T Services, Inc.
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US

#12
- RTT [ms]: 115.7
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:48
- IP Address: 12.247.108.6
- TTL: 50
- AS Number: AS7018
- AS Name: AT&T Services, Inc.
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US
- Time Zone: America/Chicago
- Region: IL
- City: Northbrook
- Latitude: 42.12
- Longitude: -87.84

#13
- Probe Send Time: 09:14:48

#14
- RTT [ms]: 832.3
- Probe Send Time: 09:15:02
- IP Address: 108.170.233.86
- TTL: 51
- AS Number: AS15169
- AS Name: Google LLC
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US

#15
- RTT [ms]: 112.6
- Probe Send Time: 09:15:07
- IP Address: 216.239.41.163
- TTL: 242
- AS Number: AS15169
- AS Name: Google LLC
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US
- Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
- Region: CA
- City: Sunnyvale
- Latitude: 37.39
- Longitude: -122.02

#16
- RTT [ms]: 107.4
- Probe Send Time: 09:15:08
- IP Address: 216.239.40.189
- TTL: 242
- AS Number: AS15169
- AS Name: Google LLC
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US
- Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
- Region: CA
- City: Sunnyvale
- Latitude: 37.39
- Longitude: -122.02

#17
- RTT [ms]: 114.8
- Probe Send Time: 09:15:08
- IP Address: 172.217.1.36
- Hostname: ord37s07-in-f36.1e100.net
- TTL: 49
- AS Number: AS15169
- AS Name: Google LLC
- Country Name: United States
- Country Code: US

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I see one on your that I go through 12.122.2.225 is a high packet area for me as well 36% to be exact the other is 12.122.133.193 is the other if they was to just fix those it would drop down quite a bit.

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4 years ago

(Edited per community guidelines) to see if Mod or CSR or somebody will notice this and do something about it.

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4 years ago

@ATTHelp hey, wanna chime in here ?

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A bunch of us are having problems with our home rural internet high packet loss being disconnected from our games poor download I dunno if it's a router problem or the servers dropping packets but it's been almost 20 days this has been happening.

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Tech keeps coming out towers are fine what are we supposed to do. Is anyone listening.

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New antenna new router new everything seems to start happening at 355pm to 2355 pm internet is unusable across all devices during these times.

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35 to 53% packet loss on these ip 12.122.2.225, 12.122.133.193. To blizzard's servers which I us its 24.105.62.129 I hope I'm posting in right chat I followed link that was sent to me @att care but I can't post on there.

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I have 20 to 50 percent packet loss just pinging Google servers.

The real question is what did ATT do in the last month that caused all of us - across the country - to experience the same loss in service when it worked fine the previous year before?

Are they aware of what's going on?

Do they plan to fix it?

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4 years ago

Has anyone experienced overages? I have had two months in the last 8 that I went over the 215 GB limit. Even then, it was just one 10.00 charge, so not crazy or anything.

I am wondering if they are throttling folks now that have gone over the limit - and that is what we are seeing.

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Nope, nothing to do with overages as it has been constantly like this for months and we are nowhere near cap.

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I haven't even used 60 gigs since I've had it still having this issue tech is supposed to come out tomorrow as of now my internet is completely unusable all the time now was just during peak hours now it's all the time.

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Still 20-30% packet loss in their network starting about 4 hops up.

How many of you joined this board because of this problem? That is the only reason I joined.

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@tbarcellona Me too.

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@tbarcellona me also

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4 years ago

Just wondering if anyone has had any resolution from ATT on this issue yet?

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No not so far.

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Okay I didn’t think so. I spoke to my 30th rep on Saturday and he told me that the issue on the packet loss has been resolved. I told him that I’m still having the same issue along with a lot of people on this forum so he schedule another tech to come out this coming Saturday to my house and check my equipment. I decided to let him do his thing thinking maybe they had figured something out but after seeing even more people on here having the same issue still I decided to call. I’m pretty sure I’ve talked to the same guy multiple times now and he said that the problem they are having is the home antennas are losing sync with the towers and that they are sending an expert on fixed wireless to address my problems. I think all of this is (Edited per community guidelines) but I was hoping maybe someone else could confirm this being a problem.

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@KP45697 I'm calling AT&T again tomorrow, armed with some actual numbers. I'll pass on anything they say regarding the packet loss issue here.

As of this morning around 7:00 AM I was still having the same issues with no improvement whatsoever.

The last tech that came out mentioned 'tower swapping' as a possible issue, but after testing my site he decided I can only see a single tower so that wasn't relevant to my problems. Anyway, best of luck!

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I’ve called countless times now. The last 5 times I’ve called I swear It’s been the same guy and he keeps acting like there has been no problems.

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@KP45697 I've had two different techs out. It's as if they been told to run their speedtest program and any result they get is 'acceptable.' The last one did replace the antenna, which didn't help at all.

I complained on AT&T's Facebook page and a bunch of 'social media specialists' responded via IM. I doubt they have any more pull than the people you get when you call, but I'll try them. I'm sure AT&T doesn't want all this splashed across Facebook. At this point we're all pretty much grasping at straws anyway.

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4 years ago

Im having this same issue!!!! Internet all of a sudden (Edited per community guidelines) starting about 2 weeks ago. Was working great. Now im constantly kicked off of online games..Webpages sit and spin. When I go into my router settings by entering my routers ip address in the web bar up top...Next to "connection to AT&T" theres only two red bars...What do you guys have?

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I have 3 bars which is yellow. Their having issues with the routers I'm guessing a firmware when out around end of December and until they change it all of us are going to be having issues att won't tell us what's happening or even answer our posts but I've noticed their editing our posts so someone is looking at this to do this and I think its wrong.

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4 years ago

It appears all of our previous posts have been edited out!

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Yup and it's really upsetting to be ignored I'm going to put a compliment into the FCC maybe they will answer our post then tech came out today said he couldn't do anything more for me until att fixes it on their end meanwhile I'm still having to pay my bill every month even though it is like this way.

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I just want it back to the way it was before and then I'll quit posting.
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