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Mon, May 9, 2022 6:46 PM

Fiber Internet

Will my neighborhood ever have fiber installed for internet or other services?

tonydi

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2 m ago

Welp, that sorta depends on where you live, ya know?

Of course the real answer is that even if we knew your actual address (please don't post it) nobody here would ever be able to give you a definitive answer.  AT&T never releases that info to the public.

my thoughts

Employee

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2 m ago

Unknown….zip code?

Does ATT currently offer any internet hardwired speed at the address?

If yes, what speed tier is best available when checking online?

You need to reside at an address within ATT select areas of 21 state footprint that is ATT is the ILEC not a different telco.

For the approximate 75 million addresses within footprint ATT provides hardwired internet to 80% or 60 million locations. The remaining 20% (15 million) would be cell tower service only as either hotspot or fixed wireless (1 million).

Of the 60 million hardwired the current 2022 coverage is 30% (18 m) direct fiber, 40% (24 m) FTTN VDSL speeds of 25 to 100 and last 30% (18 m) is ADSL2+ with speeds of 18 or less.

ATT is adding 3 million fiber addresses each year till end 2025 (additional 12 million) which includes new greenfield construction project and limited upgrading of FTTN (has 24 million addresses).

Who, when, where is not publicly available information. Waiting for next (4) years to see if will receive ATT fiber. By 2026 50% (30 million) will have the service and 50% will not.

If not willing to wait then recommend considering other options including relocation to an address that has fiber.

Just my thoughts…

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2 m ago

Thanks for the responses.  These answers were a lot better than Customer Service.  I was just wondering if there were future plans to upgrade the infrastructure in my area.  I was told that I could upgrade the speed which was not my question.

my thoughts

Employee

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2 m ago

If you can upgrade the speed, from what to what?

Need to have internet 25, 50, 75 or 100 FTTN (fiber to the node) to have best option of potentially receiving FTTP. I would estimate about 40% (9+ million out of 24 million) will be upgraded by 2026.

If ATT adds a 3rd 5 year build out (2026-2030) I would expect pretty much all FTTN would be converted to FTTP.

timeline 2006 to end 2015 FTTN reached 33 million 

FTTP first 5 years after purchasing DirecTv summer 2015 had 15 million with 12.5 million required by government In approval of purchase within 4 years.

FTTP second 5 year fiber build out (2021 to end 2025) adding additional 15 million for total 30 million within 10 years from fiber build out.

While I personally believe fiber build will continue after 2025 not sure if will continue same 3 million pace. Can expect all new construction projects would be fiber just not sure how much would be retrofitted… depends on what happens with 5G wireless and distance, congestion on cell towers.

gr8sho

ACE - Professor

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2 m ago

@jameshan0079 

I feel ya.  I’m very close to giving up the wait.  

ATTHelp

Community Support

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2 m ago

We're here to address your fiber availability concerns, @jameshan0079.

 

What @tonydi and @my thoughts stated is correct. Whether you'll receive fiber service or not is entirely dependant on your address. More specifically, there are certain factors that come into play when determining whether or not the service will be made available where you live, such as:

  1. Distance – AT&T Internet is a distance-dependent service. If you are too far away from the equipment, certain services may not be available. This means your neighbor may have service but your home cannot.  
  2. Equipment is not available – To get service, AT&T Internet equipment has to be in the area. In some instances, it isn't. As above, this could mean a neighbor may have it but service was not expanded to your home. We do not have information if or when it will be.
  3. The area is not built for AT&T Internet/ Fiber – some areas are not internet ready. The Community team does not have information if or when it will be since installation is factor dependent as mentioned at the top of the page. Distance and equipment can also play a factor in instances like this.
  4. Another competitor services the area - This happens from time to time but it does not mean all services are not available to you.

Let us know if you have any other questions or concerns, and thanks for reaching out on the AT&T Community Forums!

 

Jarod, AT&T Community Specialist

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1 m ago

I feel your pain jamesshan0079! I’ve been a Pacbell/AT&T customer since dialup then DSL, and am ready to jump ship because of low speeds. Cable, which I strongly dislike, and Starlink are the only options that I see. There is no one in AT&T management to voice my frustrations with and from thecomments to your thread, we are stuck. I talked with some local linemen and they said that “if we were new construction, no problem. But good luck with old construction as everyone is too busy taking care of the new construction homes.”

my thoughts

Employee

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1 m ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbjBuB1iBGY

Considering an estimated 4 million home shortage in the US if your in an area that is rapidly building to meet demand does mean less brownfield areas will be upgraded.

ATT statement (financial budget) is to add 3 million residential fiber addresses per year for several years. This counts as both greenfield and brownfield being combined total of 3 million.

With some zip codes 80+% fiber and others less than 20%… limited manpower both within the company and contractors used along with  reduced materials trying to meet 3 million per year is a challenge. 

Perhaps if take the fiber build out to 2030 would see close to 70%-75% having fiber within 21 state footprint. Of course other companies trying to reach the other 29 states have the same limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtTAb9Tl6E

Worth an hour of your time in my opinion…

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SplitEns, I understand the frustration on both sides.  I work on projects that include installing fiber and it's a dirty job.  When I moved to Texas, I was living in an apartment for a short while with AT&T fiber internet.  After moving into a house, I'm paying the same rate for copper.  I would be happy if the rate dropped for copper internet or pay a higher price for fiber internet.

browndk26

ACE - Professor

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1 m ago

@SplitEns Understand that in new construction, most builders are installing the infrastructure at their expense. So little cost to att. Upgrading existing service is att cost. In my area, I saw aerial wiring upgraded to fiber first, then underground. What you don’t see is the infrastructure that att has to upgrade outside of neighborhoods. 

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