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Fri, Aug 12, 2022 8:52 PM

in-home fiber install

i'm a uverse customer about to upgrade to fiber.  i'm trying to figure out how i want the installation done.

the fiber will enter the house thru the garage, near the front of the house.  i want the router to be in an upstairs room, near the center of the house.  i do not want the fiber to be tacked to the exterior of the house.  i think ideally i'd like the fiber to run thru the attic, but i'm not sure AT&T will install it this way.  this is my plan A.

what kind of professional does this kind of work?  when i search, most of the hits seem to be for commercial rather than residential installation.

at first i had thought to put the ONT in the garage, and run cat 6 from there to a wall jack upstairs.  then run a cat 6 patch cable to the router.  this would be my plan B.  but the tech who came out here said that AT&T's current preference is to run the fiber directly to the router, without a separate ONT.  is there a big advantage to this from a customer standpoint?

would it be reasonable to run fiber to the upstairs wall jack (and have it be a fiber connector), then run a fiber patch cable from there to the combined ONT/router?  this would be my plan C.

i am in a pickle here because the uverse service is falling apart, and AT&T won't repair it.  so until the fiber gets installed, i'm without usable internet service.  the basic problem is that i don't think AT&T will do the cabling the way i want, so i am looking for a way to get the service but keep my options open so i can change the cabling in the future, without having to get AT&T involved again.

any comments on the feasibility or drawbacks of plan A, B, or C?

if plan A is best, how can i find a pro to do the prep before AT&T does the install?

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my thoughts

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One issue is you do not know what fiber splitter you will be on, G-PON or XGS-PON.

G-PON splitter would allow a separate ONT (010) to be used with Ethernet (all 4 pairs needed) to the gateway (BGW 210 preferred but could be 5268). This allows for the ONT and gateway to be co located or not.

XGS-PON would be the BGW 320 which has a build in ONT thus the fiber needs to be installed to where the actual gateway will be located.

The fiber is single mode SC/APC to SC/APC (green ends).

A possible source of purchasing at different lengths, note listing is meters… roughly 3 meters is 10 feet., 15 meters about 50 feet, 30 meters about 100 feet.

https://www.amazon.com/25M-Singlemode-Simplex-Fiber-Optic/dp/B07WZJ2ZQW?th=1

The company considering could pre install this from expected point of entry to your desired location using conduit or not. Then the tech installs the drop, a NID, connects the purchased fiber line at NID and wall plate where the gateway will be located.

Just my thoughts…

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dave006

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The fiber is single mode SC/APC to SC/APC (green ends) as @Constructive indicated above in the thread. Does your upstairs location have an external wall on the side of the house where your Service entry point is located or is it an interior wall room?

Custom install would be to have a contract service run a conduit from your outside entry point (outside wall of your Garage) as you explained above.

A conduit and pull-string inside with no sharp 90 degree turns or bends to your room where you want the connection terminated. They don't need to install interior Fiber. That's optional as the AT&T install tech can just use the pull-string to pull fiber to the end of the conduit.

Is it possible to just run a conduit up the exterior wall to the second floor or attic space?

why does AT&T want to run fiber to the router rather than have a separate ONT box?

It simplifies the process and makes any future updates a self-install solution with a single combined ONT/Gateway that AT&T would ship to you.

Note: AT&T does not run the Fiber directly to your ONT/Gateway unit. They really want to install an AT&T wall plate and then use a Fiber jumper cable (normally 12 foot) to connect to the back of the ONT/Gateway (BGW320-500, BGW320-505).

However as @Constructive explained above the actual equipment you receive may be with a external ONT near a BGW210-700 or 5268AC for speeds up to 1 Gbps speed tiers due to supply limits from the manufactures of the new BGW320 Gateways.

This is what an AT&T wall plate looks like installed with a Fiber jumper cable to the ONT/Gateway (The fiber jumper is also single mode SC/APC to SC/APC (green ends)).
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what kind of professional does this kind of work?

google low voltage contractor, at&t no longer does wall fishes (big liability) best buys geek squad use to do it but not sure if they still do.

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> google low voltage contractor

thanks for your answer.  i tried this, but the web sites usually don't specifically say whether they do fiber optic.  i've called three companies so far, and all three said they do not handle fiber optic.  i called a fourth company whose receptionist said he wasn't sure whether they do this type of work, they'll get back to me (doesn't sound promising).  another hit only mentions business installs.

i'm concerned that if i hire someone to put in a conduit and they are not familiar with AT&T's requirements, it will be a complete waste of money.

> at&t no longer does wall fishes

so i need to get someone who will do the wall fishing, but who also knows whatever rules AT&T has for fiber.  are the rules published anywhere on the web?




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Try calling local electricians, audio/visual installers (home theaters). Home networking companies. If they don’t do that kind of work they may refer you to someone who does. Geek squad may be of help finding them too. They may contract out work. I’ve read in here before to use 1 inch conduit with no more than a 90 degree sweeping radius curve. Empty conduit with a pull tape may be the best option.  If you see any att techs around, try  asking them for tips and opinions. 

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so, i managed to find a local company who says they might do this type of work.  they said they mainly do commercial, not residential fiber work.  they asked me:

what kind of fiber do we need to use?

why does AT&T want to run fiber to the router rather than have a separate ONT box?

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