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Tuesday, May 1st, 2018 4:55 AM

Airties 4920 Extender w/ 3rd Party Router

Will the Airties 4920's work with the Netgear R8500 Router in either wired or wirelessly connected mode?

 

Rather than continuing to use the BWG210-700 wi-fi radio (in other words,  turn it off), I want to use the R8500 for wi-fi. It has better coverage. Like the BWG210-700, it handles B, G, N & AC.

 

Has anyone had experience using the Airties with non-AT&T equipment?

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6 years ago

@192kHzThanks for the reply.

 

Here is what I found in my case. I used two (2) Airties 4920's with the wireless connection method paired to the BWG210-700. The speed tests were inconsistent at best with speeds varying between 90 and 300Mbps with AT&T connection instructions. Another option I tried was to hardwire the 4920's to the BWG210-700 (wi-fi on). That got me very consistent speeds 90/90Mbps. Unacceptable!

 

I did an Internet  search on the Airties 4920 and discovered their website and the Airties App from the Google Play Store. Using the hardwired 4920's, the App instructed me to turn off the RG wi-fi. I hit the factory reset button on both 4920's and started the connection process clean. That being done, I let Airties App do its job. Now it wanted the AP (Netgear R8500) wi-fi turned off. After that, it began the install process of both 4920's and in about 30 seconds it was done. Now I get speeds between 200-300Mbps on my smartphone throughout the entire house using the OOKLA Speedtest App to the local AT&T central office.

 

Pros: Installation is very simple with App. The Airties App lets you name the SSID and set your own password. It shows you the link speed in the mesh network. It let's you add an additional 4920 to the mesh network simply. Get very consistent speeds using the OOKLA speedtest App. No more buffers on 1080-60p YouTube videos. You can connect an additional hardware device to the 4920 through the 2nd ethernet port on the 4920; in my case, the printer/scanner, as it's one less wi-fi device to cause interference. I also tried connecting the second U-verse TV STB to the other wired 4920's and all is well. Yet another less wi-fi device to get in the way. The STB does require a reset. Don't think I'd connect the U-verse DVR that way, however. Actually, for me, the DVR sits next to the RG anyway.

 

Cons: Don't hit the 300-500Mbps speeds I sometimes did get on the smartphone when I was within about 20 feet of the BWG210-700; however it was not consistent anyway.

 

Other: Airties is coming out with a newer model, 4930, that has faster wi-fi link speeds. I do not see these on the AT&T accessories website, only the 4920 and I do not know the release date of the 4930 model in the US. For me, this solution worked the best. I'm glad already owned the Netgear R8500 and didn't go out and purchase one. I would have needed an extender anyway because I don't like the steeringand other issues w/ the BWG210-700 wi-fi. It would not have mesh and would likely be triple the cost,  like the EX7300 or something.20180508_121406.jpgfrom: Airties APP

 

 

 

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6 years ago

Its my understanding that the AirTies 4920 will only work work with the supplied AT&T gateways  Pace 5268AC and the BWG210.......I bought one a few weeks ago and it was extremely easy to set up with the Pace 5268AC but I was kinda disappointed in the speed of the AirTies unit but for just $35 I think its a great deal and investment and it does work as a true mesh.  If you want to use a fast wifi extender with your Netgear R8500 I suggest buying the Netgear EX7500 or the EX8000; I own them both and they are blazing fast compared to the AirTies device but they are more difficult to configure.  Hope that helps......

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6 years ago

The AirTie can be used as a wireless access point with 3rd party routers. However it won't be a mesh network anymore. 3rd party routers don't have the coding built into the software that turns the modem into a mesh node itself (for AirTies). The BGW-210 and 5268 modems have this. 

 

Also I'm not sure you could even use WPS to pair the AirTies with 3rd party. Though I could be wrong as I have never done this, nor seen anyone do it. So you may have to hardwire the AirTie with ethernet with 3rd party products if WPS didn't work.

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6 years ago

I use the Orbi system in my house.  I have a wired base in the living room that provides a very strong signal downstairs and a wireless satellite upstairs.  No dead zones and great speed throughout.  My router's SSID is not broadcast and all my devices are connected to the Orbi.  Super easy to set up and a true mesh system taking AT&T Wi-Fi out of the picture.

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6 years ago

I use the Orbi system in my house.

My router's SSID is not broadcast and all my devices are connected to the Orbi.

 

No one is trying to say 3rd party options are bad. They are expensive however, hundreds of dollars.

The AirTies in use with the 5268 or BGW-210 is AT&T providing another option for consumers. A much cheaper ($34.99) option. 

 

a true mesh system

AirTies in conjunction with 5268 or BGW-210 is WiFi mesh. Both gateways have code built in that allow the gateway itself to be the main node, and the AirTies themselves are additional nodes. 

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5 years ago

So are you saying that in your solution, the Airties only worked if they were wired? Is wiring only for the set up or did you have to have it wired in the different rooms in order to get the results you observed? 

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5 years ago

Do you use the Airties with the Orbi System? If so, is the set up process with a different router similar?

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5 years ago

What if you were seeing the tone of errors like this? And you don't have any third party equipment and - the AT&T 2WIRE?  I seem to get these 20 to 30 times an hour:

 

ice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::rm-daemon: 33383136:[PID:1372]air-wall:error: failed! ret=-1 error=[22] Invalid argument (wireless_get_current_cca_avg air_wall.c:912)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::rm-daemon: 33383136:[PID:1372]generic-platform:error: error: Invalid argument (generic_platform_get_current_cca_avg generic_platform.c:1415)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::rm-daemon: 33383136:[PID:1372]broadcom_common_wal:error: ret: -1, error: 22[Invalid argument] (bcm_common_get_current_channel_cca broadcom_common_wal.c:1986)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::rm-daemon: 33383135:[PID:1372]broadcom_common_wal:error: duration is 0 in scan results. (bcm_get_channel_cca_resp broadcom_common_wal.c:1516)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: (rpc_wireless_get_current_cca_avg air_wall_rpc_server.c:409)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 33382627:[PID:2353]rpc-server:error: airwall function returns rc:-1 error=22
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 33382627:[PID:2353]air-wall:error: failed! ret=-1 error=[22] Invalid argument (wireless_get_current_cca_avg air_wall.c:912)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 33382627:[PID:2353]generic-platform:error: error: Invalid argument (generic_platform_get_current_cca_avg generic_platform.c:1415)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 33382627:[PID:2353]broadcom_common_wal:error: ret: -1, error: 22[Invalid argument] (bcm_common_get_current_channel_cca broadcom_common_wal.c:1986)
notice Jan 13 10:56:02
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 33382626:[PID:2353]broadcom_common_wal:error: duration is 0 in scan results. (bcm_get_channel_cca_resp broadcom_common_wal.c:1516)

 

I know I have some malicious neighbors within Wi-Fi distance. Could this be evidence?

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5 years ago

Same deal as JasonQuinlan, I am getting loads of these as well and do not have any Airties equipment, only ubiquiti.  Are these hacking attempts?

 

user: airties::wall_rpcd: (rpc_wireless_get_current_cca_avg air_wall_rpc_server.c:409)
notice Feb 20 15:11:58
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 16649414:[PID:2534]rpc-server:error: airwall function returns rc:-1 error=22
notice Feb 20 15:11:58
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 16649414:[PID:2534]air-wall:error: failed! ret=-1 error=[22] Invalid argument (wireless_get_current_cca_avg air_wall.c:912)
notice Feb 20 15:11:58
user: airties::wall_rpcd: 16649413:[PID:2534]generic-platform:error: error: Invalid argument (generic_platform_get_current_cca_avg generic_platform.c:1415)

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3 years ago

I'm a previous AT&T Employee (I've installed HUNDREDS of these in customer's homes), but since I don't have the discount anymore, I had to jump ship and go with the competitor. I've always heard that the Airties we installed would NOT work with another provider or wireless router. Can anyone tell me this is actually the case?

I have factory reset a 4920 that I bought (I've purchased two, hopefully they aren't useless now...) and I am able to log in to it's web-ui for a few minutes after boot up. I am NOT seeing any of the actual settings/configurations, even after getting it to perform a firmware upgrade. It seems I can only change the password, review logs and see current status. Nothing else.. 

Anyone care to help me out? I'm trying to use it as an extender for an ASUS CM-32_AC2600 modem/router combo. I have tried both WPS and Ethernet Pairing. Doesn't seem to matter though.

Thanks!

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