iPhone 6s Plus Shipping dates

Did you get a ship date of October 16th 2015- October 23rd 2015?

I am talking to a rep right now through Live Chat and he is telling me that the device will start shipping sooner than that we should be getting the device before the 24th of September I am hoping he is right because what is the point of pre-ordering don't you think? Smh

kaveria wrote:

Ordered before 12am PST, my confirmation says 11:48pm PST and the estimated ship date was 9/16-9/23 and now its 10/16-10/23!

Thats imposible... I was down here from 2:43am refreshing the page every minute, the att site went back live at 2:59am EST and I placed an order at 3:02am got a confirmation at 3:03am, the confirmation email does not have any dates eather. 

Here is an intresting part, I also ordered a 6s pink for my wife on a diffrent account, and got the 24th date, but I also got charged on my Amex for the full amount, while for the 6s Plus I only got a $1 authorization. 

On Apple.com right now as of 7am EST it still shows delivery date of 9/25. I really really hope I get this phone on time, I have plans for my existing 6 that need to be done way before the estimates dates

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@bryant22 wrote:
My order time was 255am est and I have that shipping date as well. Oct 16....... Last year I ordered the 6 at the same time and I was one of those that had to wait 2-3 weeks. I hope it's not the same this time around.

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1 more observation. The 6s on another account, got 2 emails with Order confirmation, my 6s Plus only had one initial email. I hope this wont be the moving of orders manually again in to the system making them delayed. I was not one of those people, but I did read about it. I hope I`m not that person this time....