Oh, I understand. I've done the calculations and considered the advantages/disadvantages of each provider and it's basically a wash, if I continue to get my FAN discount from AT&T after the upgrade. Under those circumstances I probably would stay with them. Problem is, as this thread points out, you really don't know until the order goes through and by then it's too late to unwind everything. At least with Verizon (and at least in my experience) whatever discount I'm told I'll get when I order has been the discount I end up with.

For example, I did a chat with AT&T CS yesterday. Rep told me I would continue to get my 18% on the main plan but that I'd be switched to a 3GB data plan, which we know is not subject to discount. This differed from the site which "said" I could get a 2GB iPhone plan in place of my 2G BB plan and that I would get the discount.

That's why I'm leaning to ETF out. But we'll see. I really like the call quality on AT&T (data speed s***ks) and would have no problem staying but this game of Russian Roulette they're trying to make me play gets tiresome.

Thanks for the info.