Windows Phone Update 8107

[doomsday790]

I may have found another way around our att problem. When ever zune attempts to update the phone, zune also connects to several IP addresses not owned by microsoft. When crosschecked aginst whois, these IPs are linked to AT&T affiliates. Know these are untested, and if anyone wants them, contact me through private message.

[McHale72]

Probably the best solution for ALL AT&T Windows Phone customers is to unbrand your Windows Phone device so it will no longer be an AT&T device.  Once you do that, you will get all of your ROM's directly from the Manufacturer/Microsoft.  Going forward, your device will be as if you bought it straight from the manufacturer (except it will still be SIM locked).

I'm sure AT&T is going to go out of it's way to make sure we don't get 7.8 just as they did with ALL updates so far.  God, I hate this 2 bit company.

[johninsj ACE - Wizard]

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McHale72 wrote:

Probably the best solution for ALL AT&T Windows Phone customers is to unbrand your Windows Phone device so it will no longer be an AT&T device.  Once you do that, you will get all of your ROM's directly from the Manufacturer/Microsoft.  Going forward, your device will be as if you bought it straight from the manufacturer (except it will still be SIM locked).

I'm sure AT&T is going to go out of it's way to make sure we don't get 7.8 just as they did with ALL updates so far.  God, I hate this 2 bit company.

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According to Paul Thurrott (who has lots of insider access, so I'm willing to bet he's right) 7.8 will be direct from microsoft to all wp devices, so even if you don't get tango, you'll get 7.8 without AT&T having to do anything.

[doomsday790]

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McHale72 wrote:

Probably the best solution for ALL AT&T Windows Phone customers is to unbrand your Windows Phone device so it will no longer be an AT&T device.  Once you do that, you will get all of your ROM's directly from the Manufacturer/Microsoft.  Going forward, your device will be as if you bought it straight from the manufacturer (except it will still be SIM locked).

I'm sure AT&T is going to go out of it's way to make sure we don't get 7.8 just as they did with ALL updates so far.  God, I hate this 2 bit company.

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So, what are the possible bad effects to debranding?

[McHale72]

doomsday790 wrote: 

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So, what are the possible bad effects to debranding?

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None. XDA has a thread titled something like "how to unbrand any Windows Phone" and it's not that complicated.  

All it does is remove the carrier identification that is specific to a carrier and change it to what direct from manufacturer devices have.  You'll get the update as soon as the manufacturer starts to push it to carriers.  The process is a little involved but nothing too difficult.  

[McHale72]

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johninsj wrote:

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According to Paul Thurrott (who has lots of insider access, so I'm willing to bet he's right) 7.8 will be direct from microsoft to all wp devices, so even if you don't get tango, you'll get 7.8 without AT&T having to do anything.

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I'm hoping he's right.  I saw his post and I believe he misunderstood what was said. I saw the same Summit and I never heard those words out of anyone's mouth except Paul's.  In fact, there's not a single site on the internet where that info didn't come from Paul.  That''s why I asked the Developers directly about 7.8 and future updates.  Here's their quote: "We are working w/ our partners to make all updates we produce avail. to as many devices and in as timely a manner as possible."

Doesn't sound that way to me from the Summit (where Paul got the alleged information) OR from Microsoft themselves.

Again, I'm hoping he's right but until Microsoft makes an official statement, I'm going with the Summit and their direct response to my specific question.  

-Mc 

[doomsday790]

Debranded my quantum and still no update

[McHale72]

You gold carded it already?

[doomsday790]

Gold Carded??????

[hale90]

anyone knows if Dell Venue Pro will get Tango update? it's at&t branded

[AndreHBuss]

Why AT&T? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY give us the updates

[doomsday790]

Because they may actually provide great service and lose money because no one's getting a new device. I know it sucks.

[Voitan]

The Dell Venue Pro, from what I've read on wpcentral and Engadget, is getting the update, but I think it's only the unbranded device, not the AT&T variant at the moment.

[McHale72]

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doomsday790 wrote:

Gold Carded??????

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Yep.  That is how you do it on every Windows Phone.  How did you do it?

[doomsday790]

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McHale72 wrote:

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doomsday790 wrote:

Gold Carded??????

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Yep.  That is how you do it on every Windows Phone.  How did you do it?

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I ment what do you mean by Gold Carding?

[shoe]

Why bother someone posted yesterday he debranded and  still didn't get the update

[doomsday790]

Can someone tell me what to brand it as for Rodgers in Canada?

[doomsday790]

McHale, if I read that correctly, your way involves destroying two or three cables and an sd card reader (correct?). If that's true I'd rather find an easier way to get the update first.

[McHale72]

you can buy USB Y cables.  But if not, USB cables are dirt cheap.  WELL worth the price of getting AT&T out of your business...

[doomsday790]

Thanks for the info, but before I do that I want to try rebranding to either Rogers or Bell in Canada as they are pushing the update now. The only problem is trying to find the identifer values for them.

[McHale72]

I know I read them in XDA when they were pushing all the HTC Surround updates and AT&T claimed there were none.  I originally set my Surround to Rogers that way.

[shoe]

You guys see this.

http://forums.wpcentral.com/focus-flash-4g-omnia-w/195178.htm

[shoe]

I wonder what happened

[McHale72]

"They suck" is what happened.  They are ominously quiet about Windows Phone updates for a reason.  It's not an accident that they are only monitoring this thread to censor it.

[jdwinphan]

I have a Lumia and my old Focus as a backup & music player. For my Lumia, I just want the Tango for more features like sending small video via MMS. The Focus, on the other hand is a nightmare since it has the vanishing keyboard bug that needs to be fixed. MS put that fix out in early January and we still don't have it.

I can wait for new features, but bug fixes of that magnitude should be released as soon as possible, right??

[doomsday790]

Yes they should, however this is AT&T we're talking about, and they suck. Customer experience does not matter to them, only the money going in their pocket does.

[McHale72]

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jdwinphan wrote:
I have a Lumia and my old Focus as a backup & music player. For my Lumia, I just want the Tango for more features like sending small video via MMS. The Focus, on the other hand is a nightmare since it has the vanishing keyboard bug that needs to be fixed. MS put that fix out in early January and we still don't have it.

I can wait for new features, but bug fixes of that magnitude should be released as soon as possible, right??

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You're lucky, my Titan is still sitting at 7720.  The bug fixes my device requires go back to last year.  And they are HUGE bugs.  Whoever is in charge of Windows Phone support should be sacked. And those responsible for training them should be sacked.  And those responsible for sacking them should be sacked.  

[doomsday790]

AT&T should be sacked. Then mabye they would be a good company.

[doomsday790]

Oh my god, AT&T told the truth rather than make an excuse??? I must mark this day on the calendar.