Questions For Lumia 920 Owners

Mic0266 · ‎11-03-2012

My contract is up this month for 3 of 5 phones. My two other phones are a GS3 and iphone 5 just renewed.

The lumia 920 has caught my interest and though I enjoy currently using androids I’m ready to give windows a shot. It will be a couple weeks but if some people who have received the lumia could give me a honest opinion it would be appreciated. I’ve read reviews, my problem is people who give these review could have a interest to or not to be as honest as a end user.

I will go into ATT to mess around with the phone, but I wont be able to get in depth as someone who has bought the phone.

This Thread is not for people to bash any phone.

If you have purchased the Lumia 920 & have had time enough to give a opinion.

Please Give your Opinion on ANY of the following questions after using your Lumia.

Music, can I use my .mp3 or is it still zune base?
Opinion is Nokia Maps at least on par with Google Maps.?
Image stability/ video quality impressive or lacks ?
Camera
Nokia lenses software
City View
Nokia radio how many channels does it offer and can you download music free over wifi
How does windows speed compare ios, JB, ICS , GB or whatever eles you have used, any lockups?
Have to include Weight. Bulk (its like the weight of a Iphone4 with a heavy duty case) but still I have to ask.

OTHERS ARE WELCOME TO ADD QUESTIONS

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

Mic0266 wrote:

My contract is up this month for 3 of 5 phones. My two other phones are a GS3 and iphone 5 just renewed.

The lumia 920 has caught my interest and though I enjoy currently using androids I’m ready to give windows a shot. It will be a couple weeks but if some people who have received the lumia could give me a honest opinion it would be appreciated. I’ve read reviews, my problem is people who give these review could have a interest to or not to be as honest as a end user.

I will go into ATT to mess around with the phone, but I wont be able to get in depth as someone who has bought the phone.

This Thread is not for people to bash any phone.

If you have purchased the Lumia 920 & have had time enough to give a opinion.

Please Give your Opinion on ANY of the following questions after using your Lumia.

Music, can I use my .mp3 or is it still zune base?

Opinion is Nokia Maps at least on par with Google Maps.?

Image stability/ video quality impressive or lacks ?

Camera

Nokia lenses software

City View

Nokia radio how many channels does it offer and can you download music free over wifi

How does windows speed compare ios, JB, ICS , GB or whatever eles you have used, any lockups?

Have to include Weight. Bulk (its like the weight of a Iphone4 with a heavy duty case) but still I have to ask.

OTHERS ARE WELCOME TO ADD QUESTIONS

I have a titan (WP7.5) and will get the 920 today. I can answer most of these based WP7.5

1) Of course you can use your MP3s with Zune, which remains the way you get files onto WP8.

2) love nokia maps (have it on my titan) - on par with any other turn by turn map app

3) TBD - the nokia is supposed to be awesome. Will let you know

4) ditto

5&6) I know the developers - so I guess I am disqualified for these - I think they're both pretty cool but they're mostly just "hey this is neat" features.

7) TBD

8) heck, single core windows beats android for speed. I expect wp8 on better dual core hardware to do even better. I think i had to reboot my titan once in the past 3 months.

9) apparently the wireless charging adds 2 ounces and 1MM in thickness. My titan is very thin and light, so I am expecting to find it more bulky and heavy. If you want thin & light go with the HTC (apparently they have made the 8X with decent mics so you can actually talk on the handset, not just with a headset!)

FredW · ‎04-24-2007

Windows phone 8 no longer syncs through Zune.

I am planning to go in and look at a 920 in an hour, but I am not sure that I will buy one. I probably will.

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

johninsj wrote:

Mic0266 wrote:

My contract is up this month for 3 of 5 phones. My two other phones are a GS3 and iphone 5 just renewed.

The lumia 920 has caught my interest and though I enjoy currently using androids I’m ready to give windows a shot. It will be a couple weeks but if some people who have received the lumia could give me a honest opinion it would be appreciated. I’ve read reviews, my problem is people who give these review could have a interest to or not to be as honest as a end user.

I will go into ATT to mess around with the phone, but I wont be able to get in depth as someone who has bought the phone.

This Thread is not for people to bash any phone.

If you have purchased the Lumia 920 & have had time enough to give a opinion.

Please Give your Opinion on ANY of the following questions after using your Lumia.

Music, can I use my .mp3 or is it still zune base?

Opinion is Nokia Maps at least on par with Google Maps.?

Image stability/ video quality impressive or lacks ?

Camera

Nokia lenses software

City View

Nokia radio how many channels does it offer and can you download music free over wifi

How does windows speed compare ios, JB, ICS , GB or whatever eles you have used, any lockups?

Have to include Weight. Bulk (its like the weight of a Iphone4 with a heavy duty case) but still I have to ask.

OTHERS ARE WELCOME TO ADD QUESTIONS

I have a titan (WP7.5) and will get the 920 today. I can answer most of these based WP7.5

1) Of course you can use your MP3s with Zune, which remains the way you get files onto WP8.

2) love nokia maps (have it on my titan) - on par with any other turn by turn map app

3) TBD - the nokia is supposed to be awesome. Will let you know

4) ditto

5&6) I know the developers - so I guess I am disqualified for these - I think they're both pretty cool but they're mostly just "hey this is neat" features.

7) TBD

8) heck, single core windows beats android for speed. I expect wp8 on better dual core hardware to do even better. I think i had to reboot my titan once in the past 3 months.

9) apparently the wireless charging adds 2 ounces and 1MM in thickness. My titan is very thin and light, so I am expecting to find it more bulky and heavy. If you want thin & light go with the HTC (apparently they have made the 8X with decent mics so you can actually talk on the handset, not just with a headset!)

I owned a Lumia 900 and played with a Lumia 920 in the store. I will only answer the one that I think that I can.

8) I think that Jellybean is on par with Windows 8 for speed and smoothness.

For johninsj, please answer a question for me, as I'm genuinely curious and not bashing. I don't know anyone personally with a Windows phone, much less someone who likes Nokia Drive. How is Nokia Drive on par with other navigation apps? I used Nokia Drive and it told me to "turn right to get on the highway". Google Navigation would have told me to "turn right to get onto I-95". I consider this a major deficiency with Nokia Drive, especially in comparison to other navigation apps.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

FredW wrote:
Windows phone 8 no longer syncs through Zune.

I am planning to go in and look at a 920 in an hour, but I am not sure that I will buy one. I probably will.

Even when it did use Zune, you could easily drop mp3s in (like you can in iTunes...)

Mic0266 · ‎11-03-2012

Thank you for the input so far.

With the maps I'll take it as different then Google. Since 95% + of mobile users haven’t used WP its going to be a learning experience that I feel will have both advantages and disadvantages no matter how small.

I played with the phone a little today. It does have a bit of weight but my 11 yr old handled it and didn't mention the weight, when I questioned him he said this is light. Haha.. I think its all the reviews implanting a subliminal message that its heavy, making me second guess what a phone with a quality case actually weights.. we had a iphone 4 w case on hand and the weight is almost identical except the iphone is more compact in distribution.

The response on the screen was very nice, very bright and clear. My son used his sweatshirt to scroll and it worked . The software seemed very stable. I think i'm going to at least get one in a couple weeks. I figure since i'll most likely upgrading my pc to window8 for like $40 and we have a xbox. Convincing myself its a good enough reason to try out the ecosystem, if it doesn't work out I still have 14 days to return it.

Any other input is still welcome

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

Had mine in hand for three hours last night (new toy!) - it's a HAIR heavier and a mm thicker than the HTC titan. I don't get the obsession with thinner and lighter - it's got a great feel, slides into and out of the pocket with ease. Loving it. I already have a Qi charge pad, and it just works for drop on charging....

FredW · ‎04-24-2007

I have had the phone for a full day. It was an upgrade from the Samsung Skyrocket. I will say that I don't see this as a vastly better OS from Android, but it isn't any worse either. I think I like it a little better. I definitely like the privacy policy better than Google.

The hardware is pretty equivalent. I don't notice the extra thickness. I do notice the extra weight a little, but it actually makes the phone feel more solid. It doesn't bother me.

I definitely will be keeping the phone.

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Mic0266 · ‎11-03-2012

21stNow

Maybe this article will help you out.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/11/08/how-to-use-nokia-drive-beta/

Hopfully that corrects your problem. Offline maps sure seems like it could be a nice feature. Has been a few times i've used choice words when my signal droped using GPS.

ironmantexas · ‎11-11-2012

Just got mine yesterday, and immediately it was defective. It repeatedly resets over and over, when doing simple things like trying to set up voicemail, or ironically, call 611 for help with the problem.

The phone looks great, Windows 8 Phone seems great, and I was really looking forward to features, switching over from iPhone. But I'm afraid it's very unreliable. Software updates available do not help for now. Hundreds of complaints are already on the Nokia forum about the reset problem, from the USA and Europe. So it's probably thousands of defective phones.

some say it's the SIM card, some say it's the microUSB port, but removing these devices does not help. It's a firmware problem or hardware problem in the phone itself. Fortunately, I have 14-day money-back guarantee, so will use that and return to my very satisfactory iPhone 4s.

Unless there is some miracle bug fix and update available in the next 48 hours or so. I'm going to take it by the ATT store to see if that is the case, but Nokia is publishing nothing about fixing it--accept the forum problems. They claim they can simply fix it by resetting the phone, but of course that is the problem, repeated resets. Even a hard reset back to factory defaults does not work.

So stay away for now. You will go through days of early-adopter frustration. Windows 8 and Nokia's apps may some day be great, but for now they are not ready for prime time. I am a network and software engineer for 30 years, including working for ATT switch suppliers and Nokia here in DFW, so it's not my technical skills that are the problem. It's a phone shipped very defective, way too early without testing.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Right - a voice prompt "turn left in 200 feet".... "turn left" is sufficent for me. I don't need "turn left a (some bad text to speech of the street name) in 200 feet"

The routing and map quality is much more important than the parlor trick of doing text to speech on the names.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

ironmantexas wrote:

Just got mine yesterday, and immediately it was defective. It repeatedly resets over and over, when doing simple things like trying to set up voicemail, or ironically, call 611 for help with the problem.

The phone looks great, Windows 8 Phone seems great, and I was really looking forward to features, switching over from iPhone. But I'm afraid it's very unreliable. Software updates available do not help for now. Hundreds of complaints are already on the Nokia forum about the reset problem, from the USA and Europe. So it's probably thousands of defective phones.

some say it's the SIM card, some say it's the microUSB port, but removing these devices does not help. It's a firmware problem or hardware problem in the phone itself. Fortunately, I have 14-day money-back guarantee, so will use that and return to my very satisfactory iPhone 4s.

Unless there is some miracle bug fix and update available in the next 48 hours or so. I'm going to take it by the ATT store to see if that is the case, but Nokia is publishing nothing about fixing it--accept the forum problems. They claim they can simply fix it by resetting the phone, but of course that is the problem, repeated resets. Even a hard reset back to factory defaults does not work.

So stay away for now. You will go through days of early-adopter frustration. Windows 8 and Nokia's apps may some day be great, but for now they are not ready for prime time. I am a network and software engineer for 30 years, including working for ATT switch suppliers and Nokia here in DFW, so it's not my technical skills that are the problem. It's a phone shipped very defective, way too early without testing.

Sorry you got a defective unit.You can't be talking about the 920, however, as there are no "software updates" nor are there "forum problems". If you have a defective unit - just exchange it. Mine (and no doubt 99.99% of all others) are working fine.

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Right - a voice prompt "turn left in 200 feet".... "turn left" is sufficent for me. I don't need "turn left a (some bad text to speech of the street name) in 200 feet"

The routing and map quality is much more important than the parlor trick of doing text to speech on the names.

OK. I need the street names to be announced. The streets are very close together in the DC area sometimes and there is no way that I know which one is at 200 feet without the name being announced.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Right - a voice prompt "turn left in 200 feet".... "turn left" is sufficent for me. I don't need "turn left a (some bad text to speech of the street name) in 200 feet"

The routing and map quality is much more important than the parlor trick of doing text to speech on the names.

OK. I need the street names to be announced. The streets are very close together in the DC area sometimes and there is no way that I know which one is at 200 feet without the name being announced.

It will announce the turn just before you need to turn. "Turn Left"... it will say that only after you pass any other possible left turns.

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Right - a voice prompt "turn left in 200 feet".... "turn left" is sufficent for me. I don't need "turn left a (some bad text to speech of the street name) in 200 feet"

The routing and map quality is much more important than the parlor trick of doing text to speech on the names.

OK. I need the street names to be announced. The streets are very close together in the DC area sometimes and there is no way that I know which one is at 200 feet without the name being announced.

It will announce the turn just before you need to turn. "Turn Left"... it will say that only after you pass any other possible left turns.

This still would be useless/confusing to me as I'm driving. I'm still going to question in my head "turn left where?". Second, there are too many intersections that are not just two streets crossing each other that I go through. One intersection near a church that I visit occasionally has a three-street intersection. A prompt saying "turn left" isn't going to help me there. Another intersection near my closest Radio Shack is a two-street split. The "turn left" prompt wouldn't help me in this situation, either. There are far too many of those near me and where I travel for me to prefer Nokia Drive over Google Navigation.

I really ought to break out the Lumia and try it in the horse-shoe intersection that's near where I live to see how it handles that situation. I also don't remember how it handles situations with medians in the roadway. Most state roads near me are divided highways where you have to make U-turns, then make a right-turn instead of making a left-turn.

smcb · ‎01-31-2008

Music, can I use my .mp3 or is it still zune base?
Doesnt use zune. It has a new program for syncing musing, or you can use Windows Media Player to do it.
Opinion is Nokia Maps at least on par with Google Maps.?
Nokia maps and nokia drive are included. I believe they are superior to google maps, and both allow you to download maps for offline use. Download over wifi, then no data usage when using maps.
Image stability/ video quality impressive or lacks ?
Video and picture quality is extremely impressive. Low light is fantastic, image stabilization is also excellent! Best smartphone camera ever!
Camera
See #3
Nokia lenses software
The lenses are a plug-in concept microsoft devised. Nokia includes a bunch, other companies are releasing them too. Basically just image processing/filtering that happens after you take the photo.
City View
Cool toy. You may use it now and then.
Nokia radio how many channels does it offer and can you download music free over wifi
Nokia Music has a lot of different mixes you can listen to, no commercials. You can also create your own mixes by picking 3 artists and it makes a mix from them and many other similar artists. You can also download 3 or 4 mixes via wifi for offline playback with no data charges. Quite nice.

Notably missing from the 920 (which the 900 has) is an actual FM radio.
How does windows speed compare ios, JB, ICS , GB or whatever eles you have used, any lockups?
The speed of the Windows 7 Lumia 900 was fantastic. The speed of the 920 is even better. haven't had any lockups.
Have to include Weight. Bulk (its like the weight of a Iphone4 with a heavy duty case) but still I have to ask.
The 920 is noticeably heavier than other phones. There are several reasons for this - wireless charging, nfc, larger screen and battery. I believe it is around 30g heavier than the Lumia 900. But it feels good in the hand.

gmfeld · ‎03-16-2006

I know this topic is for Lumia 920 owners, I'm wondering whether any owners have also spent any time with the HTC 8X? I got my 8X on Friday. Love the device, but...I'm coming from the HTC Titan, and the 8X overall size and screen size is a little, but noticeably smaller, than the Titan. Seems to me that the 920 size is more like the Titan (which was never too big for my liking, although I know that to some folks it was). So, if any of you 920 owners out there have also had the 8X, I'd be interested in how you found the comparison.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

johninsj wrote:

Voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation. I am WAY more concerned with the routing being correct than the phone mispronouncing a street name.

The routing is on par. The voice prompts are sufficent for me.

Can I ask for further clarification? I don't get the "voice prompt navigation vs. spoken road navigation" part.

I wasn't commenting on mispronounced street names; Nokia Drive didn't say the street names at all, at least for the one time that I tried it.

Right - a voice prompt "turn left in 200 feet".... "turn left" is sufficent for me. I don't need "turn left a (some bad text to speech of the street name) in 200 feet"

The routing and map quality is much more important than the parlor trick of doing text to speech on the names.

OK. I need the street names to be announced. The streets are very close together in the DC area sometimes and there is no way that I know which one is at 200 feet without the name being announced.

It will announce the turn just before you need to turn. "Turn Left"... it will say that only after you pass any other possible left turns.

This still would be useless/confusing to me as I'm driving. I'm still going to question in my head "turn left where?". Second, there are too many intersections that are not just two streets crossing each other that I go through. One intersection near a church that I visit occasionally has a three-street intersection. A prompt saying "turn left" isn't going to help me there. Another intersection near my closest Radio Shack is a two-street split. The "turn left" prompt wouldn't help me in this situation, either. There are far too many of those near me and where I travel for me to prefer Nokia Drive over Google Navigation.

I really ought to break out the Lumia and try it in the horse-shoe intersection that's near where I live to see how it handles that situation. I also don't remember how it handles situations with medians in the roadway. Most state roads near me are divided highways where you have to make U-turns, then make a right-turn instead of making a left-turn.

OK - it's really not that difficult, but if you need it to say the street name, you'll want something with spoken street names. No doubt you'll be able to buy something that did it. It sure seems quite easy to me, but then I usually look at the map before I take off so I can see the route.

Edit - obviously it gives you actual turn directions like bear left, u turn, exit right, etc. Anyone capable of driving with someone sitting next to them with a map saying turn hear... would be able to use it

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

"Anyone capable of driving with someone sitting next to them with a map saying turn hear... would be able to use it "

I've never had this experience, so maybe that's the difference between us and the reason for our different preferences.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

"Anyone capable of driving with someone sitting next to them with a map saying turn hear... would be able to use it "

I've never had this experience, so maybe that's the difference between us and the reason for our different preferences.

Could be. My wife is just relieved to not have to hold the map and navigate...

Anywhoo, it's all good. Does the google maps work offline (with downloaded maps?) or are you always burning cellular data when you drive?

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

johninsj wrote:

21stNow wrote:

"Anyone capable of driving with someone sitting next to them with a map saying turn hear... would be able to use it "

I've never had this experience, so maybe that's the difference between us and the reason for our different preferences.

Could be. My wife is just relieved to not have to hold the map and navigate...

Anywhoo, it's all good. Does the google maps work offline (with downloaded maps?) or are you always burning cellular data when you drive?

Google says that it offers offline maps, but I've never tried it. I always use cellular data when I navigate.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

Apparently "You will be very pleased to know that some of the features you have requested the most, spoken street names and route planning options to avoid toll roads, ferries, etc., have been included in this release. " - so spoken street names are in there, or are due in a future beta release. I didn't notice them. Will check again today on the way home!

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

Ah... yes, it announces street names

1) download latest nokia drive+ beta

2) download Voice with announced street name (they have male and female)

3) set that as your active voice

win!

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

Alright, I'll test this out on the Lumia 900 this weekend to see what it's like.

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

Alright, I'll test this out on the Lumia 900 this weekend to see what it's like.

I think its a feature for WP8 only, but I'd be happy to be wrong.

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

OK, that would make sense. Then you'll just have to tell me if you have a new preference for spoken street names!

Mic0266 · ‎11-03-2012

smcb wrote:
Music, can I use my .mp3 or is it still zune base?
Doesnt use zune. It has a new program for syncing musing, or you can use Windows Media Player to do it.

Opinion is Nokia Maps at least on par with Google Maps.?
Nokia maps and nokia drive are included. I believe they are superior to google maps, and both allow you to download maps for offline use. Download over wifi, then no data usage when using maps.

Image stability/ video quality impressive or lacks ?
Video and picture quality is extremely impressive. Low light is fantastic, image stabilization is also excellent! Best smartphone camera ever!

Camera
See #3

Nokia lenses software
The lenses are a plug-in concept microsoft devised. Nokia includes a bunch, other companies are releasing them too. Basically just image processing/filtering that happens after you take the photo.

City View
Cool toy. You may use it now and then.

Nokia radio how many channels does it offer and can you download music free over wifi
Nokia Music has a lot of different mixes you can listen to, no commercials. You can also create your own mixes by picking 3 artists and it makes a mix from them and many other similar artists. You can also download 3 or 4 mixes via wifi for offline playback with no data charges. Quite nice.

Notably missing from the 920 (which the 900 has) is an actual FM radio.

How does windows speed compare ios, JB, ICS , GB or whatever eles you have used, any lockups?
The speed of the Windows 7 Lumia 900 was fantastic. The speed of the 920 is even better. haven't had any lockups.

Have to include Weight. Bulk (its like the weight of a Iphone4 with a heavy duty case) but still I have to ask.
The 920 is noticeably heavier than other phones. There are several reasons for this - wireless charging, nfc, larger screen and battery. I believe it is around 30g heavier than the Lumia 900. But it feels good in the hand.

Thank You for the input , i'm ordering this phone in another 4 days. I'm very excited. i'm betting it will be at least 2 weeks after that before i receive the phone. seems like people figured out this is a great phone for the price..

johninsj · ‎07-07-2010

21stNow wrote:

OK, that would make sense. Then you'll just have to tell me if you have a new preference for spoken street names!

Used it yesterday. Maybe it's just me, but I still think the text to speech street names are mostly a gimmic, but indeed it will speak a mangled version of the street you are to turn at