10-06-2012 08:30:13 PM
Well it's now Saturday and noone has started the new thread so I figured I might as well. It's cold here, down in the 40's right now and supposed to get down into the 30's tonight. I'm so not ready for winter.
10-06-2012 08:46:35 PM
I had a business conference in California from 9/16-9/21, but I drove there, so I left on 9/11. After the conference, I went on vacation for 2 weeks, so I'm just now getting back.
I went up to Idaho Falls and visited the Craters of the Moon national monument, and then went over to Yellowstone national park for 3 days. I took hundreds of pictures in both locations. I'll post a few here when I get a chance.
Also visited my uncle in New Mexico.
Total drive was about 5000 miles. Good to be home, though -- I finally get to sleep in my own bed again.
10-07-2012 07:34:24 PM
A few pictures from Yellowstone ... the scenery there is amazing. If you haven't been or haven't been in several years, you need to go. There's a reason that it's our largest and most famous national park.
Creek to Upper Geyser Basin
Morning Glory Pool
Old Faithful Geyser
Old Faithful Geyser (from Observation Point)
Blue Mud Steam Vent (the mud in the middle is boiling)
10-08-2012 04:08:58 AM
Amazing pics SJ. Would love to get a chance to go the Yellowstone.
10-08-2012 06:49:59 AM
When my kids is all graduated, and the house is paid for, and...
Looks like a great trip.
10-08-2012 06:53:08 AM
Yellowstone is beautiful Somejoe and it's just down the road from me. Thinking we'll head down there next summer again.
10-09-2012 12:10:38 PM
Nice photos, SomeJoe!
10-09-2012 10:07:59 PM - edited 10-09-2012 10:40:58 PM
Great images S.J. Nice sharp with really good color. Oh me.....hearing your story and seeing your photos brought so many memories of our days on the road. I think most of you know that my wife and I lived in our motorhome and traveled the U.S. & Canada for 16 years. I remember standing around Old Faithful....with the crowd waiting for it to go off. People would be saying to each other "it's not going to go off." or "I think we missed it". But, of course....it did go up in a magnificent display. There are geysers there that are larger and shoot higher in the air than Old Faithful....but most of them erupt much less often and are irregular so they never know when they are going to pop off.
Anyway....S.J......your pictures gave me the old itch again. Gosh I'd like to go back and visit some of the spots we enjoyed so much years ago. AND....of course now I have my newer, digital cameras and sharper lenses.
Thanks much for posting them. If you are of a mind to do so I'd like to see more.....perhaps some you shot in Craters of the Moon.
P.S. Date 1967 - Craters of the Moon in Idaho. We camped here. Kids were young and these were our tent camping days and also using the back of the station wagon.
This is a scan of a 35mm Ektachrome. Unfortunately stored, over many years, in horrendous conditions of extreme heat and cold plus high humidity. Film transparencies really take a beating and deteriorate severely under those conditions. By the way, I broke my right ankle hiking in this park. Yep....THAT rugged. Yes...this is color film. But Craters of the Moon is all volcanic debris and is really almost colorless except for the women hikers with bright colored clothing. There is almost no vegetation there. These are NOT volcanos. Rather they are called cinder cones. Many eruptions here over millions of years but not the super violent kind that builds mountains.
10-10-2012 07:06:17 AM
Looks like that new cam was a great choice! Thanks for sharing the photos!
10-10-2012 07:17:18 AM
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10-10-2012 07:48:03 AM
The Canon 40D is awesome. Fantastic camera, and shooting in RAW is unbelievable. You can do anything you want to the picture after the fact. All of those I posted above were tweaked for exposure, brightness/contrast, white balance, color, and lens effects (wide/telephoto distortion and chromatic aberration). The photos were then reduced in size (those are about 700x450, the originals are about 3800x2700 (10 MPix)), and converted to JPG.
The only things that RAW can't fix after the fact are focus and adding certain lens filter effects like a circular polarizer.
I tell you, I was always impressed with the photos I got out of my 35mm film Canon EOS 10S camera, but the digital 40D just blows it away.
10-10-2012 08:14:17 AM - edited 10-10-2012 08:15:51 AM
SJ - your Morning Glory Pool picture is one of the best that I've seen. I looked for comparable ones on Flickr, to use as my desktop background and yours was as good as any and better than 90% of them. The one here was too small. I finally found a Flickr one the right size (that wasn't use restricted) but it was not nearly as good as yours.
The first Old Faithful photo contains more than just Ol' Old Faithful ... I see what looks like three other Geyser's steaming behind it The NSPS website has a reference photo (and webcams):
10-10-2012 07:34:26 PM
Here's some shots from Craters of the Moon:
Broken Top Trail Lava Flow
Broken Top Trail Lichen (living plant, similar to algae or fungus, growing on the lava)
Broken Top Trail Odd Vegitation (completely white/tan plants)
Inferno Cone Lava Sink Field
Inferno Cone Overlook
Lava Close Up
North Crater Lava Field Overlook
Tree on Devil's Orchard Trail (older part of lava field, has some vegitation)
10-10-2012 07:55:51 PM
Download this for the Morning Glory Pool wallpaper. There's two uncompressed TIFFs in that .zip file, one for 16:10 monitors, sized at 1920x1200, and one for 16:9 monitors, sized at 1920x1080.
Morning Glory Pool used to have a deep, midnight blue center and went all the way to bright red algae/bacteria at the edge. Over the years, as people have thrown coins and rocks in it, they've clogged some of the water passages at the bottom of the pool, so the water no longer gets as hot as it used to. This caused the center of the pool to go to a green rather than the deep midnight blue. Also, the copper and zinc from the coins changed the water chemistry, and the red algae/bacteria no longer grows on the edge of the pool, only the orange algae does now.
It's so sad, we can't see it as it used to be.
10-10-2012 08:51:14 PM - edited 10-10-2012 09:10:23 PM
I'm truly impressed with your images S.J. Yep....that Canon is doing a great job for you.
I thought Craters of the Moon was one of the most fascinating parks I've ever visited. Lots of wildlife there also. Our kids had lots of fun feeding tidbits to the little ground squirrels that roamed the rocks and boulders around the campsites.
I'm just itching to take another trip out west to the mountain areas....if my lungs will support me in the rarified air. I've got both my Canon XSi DSLR and my new Panasonic Lumix pocket camera with the Leica super zoom lens. We had plans this past summer but the drought and heat kept us at home. In 2013 we're going...come heck or high water. I want to get back to Utah also. Arches National Park is a photographers paradise.
The 35mm camera I was using back in 1967 was a Voightlander Vito III. It was a compact rangefinder camera with a bellows and fold-up front. Voightlander lenses were top of the line and the Vito III used one of their newest of the time...an f:2 50mm Ultron. Very sharp lens. It wasn't until 1972 that I moved over to my new Konica T-3 SLR with the Konica f1.4 -50mm lens or my f2.8 zoom lens that I purchased in the Virgin Islands.
My biggest regret about the Lumix pocket camera is that it doesn't allow shooting in RAW format. I've become so accustom to the control it gives me with my images that I feel kind of helpless without it. I'm sure that I'll continue using the Canon DSLR for most of my photography.
In 1959 ...as a college graduation present....my wife and I traveled to the Rockies and spent quite a big of time out in Colorado. It was that year the the big earthquake hit in Yellowstone. Some campgrounds were quickly flooded and it was a fairly big disaster. A new lake was formed on the west side of the park and the plumbing of some of the geysers was affected enough to change their eruption timing. Even Old Faithful was interrupted....but I don't remember how much. There were other changes too. Some smaller geysers ceased activity completely and Yellowstone lake's bottom rose. That huge magma chamber underneath the Yellowstone volcano is still active. It's a monster. The volcano's crater is nearly as large as the park. Next time it goes up.....life in the U.S. will be changed.....and probably a good share of the rest of the planet too.
We were in Yellowstone with our children in summer of 1972. I did not have a wide angle lens so my picture of the pool is tightly cropped. This was on 35mm Kodachrome 64 film.
Let's see if it looks any different from what you saw, S.J. Your photo is MUCH better.
10-10-2012 10:07:25 PM
I shot most of my photos on this trip with the standard Canon 18-55mm lens. I would love to get a really high quality lens like the Leica you have; the photos would be even better.
I love the fact that the Photoshop RAW import module can correct the spherical distortions from the lens. I shot Morning Glory Pool with the lens fully zoomed out to 18mm, which produces visible bow on the edges of the frame. The distortion corrector eliminates ALL of the bow caused by the wide angle shot ... it's awesome.
The other thing is does so well is remove chromatic aberrations. When you're zoomed well in or out, what happens is that white objects that aren't in the center of the picture develop a red fringe on one edge and a blue fringe on the other edge. This is because the zoom elements in the lens refract red light less than blue light, so the colors separate, and it gets worse the farther the white object is from the center of the picture. The Photoshop RAW module can remove this aberration completely, leaving the pure white object with no color fringes.
I now completely understand why the RAW format is so useful, and yes, it's completely understandable that you feel constrained on the camera that only shoots in JPG.
10-11-2012 09:51:30 AM - last edited on 10-11-2012 10:49:09 AM by Phil-101
Interesting discussion on photography and Somejoe's trip to the Intermountain West. Do y'all remember Ektar print film, from Kodak? The red's really popped with that particular film.
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10-11-2012 11:18:34 AM
I do remember Ektar, although I think I rarely used it. Kodachrome 64 was always my film of choice, it captured color like no other.
Even today though, there are some 35mm films still made that have their own reputation. Fujichrome Velvia 100 is well-known by nature photographers for its ability to capture highly saturated colors under daylight conditions, especially purples. I didn't shoot this one, but here's an example:
Sunset over the St. Lawrence River (shot on 6cm x 6cm Fujichrome Velvia 100)
10-11-2012 11:35:32 AM - edited 10-11-2012 11:37:11 AM
Well...Dave...no I don't remember an Ektar film from Kodak. But I could be just forgetful. They did have a color negative film for making prints that was named Ektacolor. When I hear the "Ektar" name I think of Kodak lenses because that was one of their brands. I used to have a 2 1/4" X 3 1/4 " Graflex camera that I had a Kodak Ektar lens for. The lens was pretty much standard "normal" photo length. Around 80mm I think and was moderately fast with maximum of f4.5.
Actually....a lot of professionals used to shoot Ektacolor Professional color negative film. It was the ideal film for them because gorgeous color prints and/or color transparencies could be made from images on the negative film. But...in my working days....I had some contacts with National Geographic Photographers and they pretty much used ONLY Kodachrome. Ektachrome was good too but a completely different type of film with totally different chemistry. It's biggest problem was with long term storage because it could suffer from fading.....even when stored in total darkness if climate conditions were not carefully controlled. So for archival purposes....Kodachrome was the film of choice for those N.G. boys & girls. Nat. Geographic would purchase entire production runs of Kodak film so....on an assignment....a photographer would be shooting everything on an identical emulsion number. And those emulsion runs were thoroughly tested for color balance, etc. before they turned it loose for use by their people.
S.J., I also use the 18-55mm kit lens with my Canon DSLR. I've been pretty impressed with it's sharpness. I also have the mate to that lens....the 55-250mm lens and I've had good results with it also. These are not expensive lenses but pretty darn good for the price. For when we are traveling I would like to have an excellent, general-purpose super zoom for my Canon. The one that has received much critical acclaim in reviews is the Tamron 18-270mm zoom. (about 27-405mm in 35mm camera terms) It is quite compact and....for a lens with so much range...amazingly low distortion. At B & H Photo it runs around $500 if there is a sale on. At my age and income I just haven't been able to bring myself to part with the bucks. But it sure would be nice to not have to be fumbling around changing lenses on-the-go. With my luck I'm gonna drop one of my lenses while I'm trying to switch them as I'm hanging over the railing on a boat or perched on a rock at the edge of a canyon. Know what I mean? An all-in-one would be very handy to have. Hey!....maybe I should just purchase another camera body and put the other lens on it and then I wouldn't have to worry about those risky lens switching tasks. Wonder if momma will swallow THAT excuse? Heck. It sounds plausible to me.
Well...anyway...those image you got on your trip were really super. Thanks so much for sharing.
10-11-2012 11:39:04 AM - edited 10-11-2012 11:43:09 AM
SJ: Nice! I also experienced popping colors like that with Fujichrome. I did alot with Fuji negative film, too. I liked it because the greens popped more for nature photos and It actually worked best for me in my racing photos. There were hardly any green cars (save for Teo Fabi @ Indy ), so I didn't have a problem with greens being oversaturated. The grain was a bit sharper than the normal Kodak print film. The normal Kodak negative film seemed to highlight yellows while Ektar overdid the reds. It was a bit disconcerting to give or sell photos when your eye is drawn to a part of a white car that is red, like the number, a decal or a window net. Ektar often took even the tiniest red object and made it look like it was glowing.
Phil: Here is a link to a Wiki article on Ektar. It morphed into Kodak Royal Gold. I used ASA 25, 100 and the ill fated 125 varieties. It came out right in the middle of my racing photography days. The wiki article also talks about Ektar lenses, too.
10-11-2012 12:04:54 PM
NASCAR Cup driver Dale Earnhardt to miss at least the next two "Chase" cup races due to a concussion from a tire test in August (!) and partially due to last weekend's huge pileup. WOW! Regan Smith will now drive the 88, Kurt Busch is already announced to be in Smith's old 78 ride and AJ Allmendinger will be in the Phoenix 51.
10-11-2012 05:55:09 PM
Thanks for the info. on Ektar film, Dave. OK....by that time I was shooting all Kodachrome. Then I shifted completely to digital in 1999. Very interesting stuff on the Ektar. There was also a regular, mass market negative print film well known as Kodacolor. The only time I ever used foreign produced films was in my B & W days. I was a fan of the Gevalux products. (hope I spelled the correctly) If I remember correctly it was a product of Belgium. But pls. don't hold me to that. Too many years have passed and my internal HDD is in pretty bad shape.
If you ever come to the Kansas City area to attend any races at the huge Kansas Raceway facility......drop me a PM and we'll arrange a meet. The Kansas facility is huge....and is part of a complex that includes big hotel and casino. All relatively new. I've never been to the big track north of Fort Worth but have driven by it many times. THAT is some installation also. When I was a teenager I used to enjoy going to the races at the Kansas State Fair....but as I got older....other priorities....like family and school and work seemed to take over.