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Weekly Off-Topic Thread #250

Wow, the big #250 WOTT!

 

Today's my wife and I's 38th anniversary so were getting ready to go pig-out at Red Lobster! My wife's fav is lobster tails and mine is king crab. Just cheap stuff... LOL.

 

So what did I do on my anniversary while the wife was working? Back in early July my son was taking care of the place (yeah power outage week) and cleared my old garden area about 30'x100' of 4' high pure poison ivy, wild grapevine and briars. Of course it's growing back so sprayed it with a home remedy herbicide. Used 1 gal white vinegar, 1 cup of salt, and 1 tablespoon of liquid dish soap so it will stick to the plants leaves. Applied about 1 1/2 gals.

 

This homemade herbicide has to be a lot cheaper than Roundup but it doesn't kill the roots. W/o leaves supposedly the plants will die off. I know one thing, I can't wait until that vinegar dries because does my yard stink! :smileyvery-happy:

 

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Thanks Phil and Uni for the compliments.  Yep to fuel up with diesel runs me about $110 to $120 and I usually don't let it get below 1/4 tank, so that's putting in about 30 to 32 gallons.  New in '08 I was only getting about 9.5 to 10 miles to the gallon because of all of the pollution devices that they had to install starting on this model year.  Said a diesel can't smoke so that's why they put them on from the factory.  They installed what is called a diesel particulate filter.  It's like a catalytic converter on a car but when it gets clogged with soot the computer dumps raw diesel into the thing and it basically light the soot on fire to burn it away.  They call this regeneration.  Well after a few times of this thing getting dirty and going into regen it had to come off.  Sometimes used as much as 1/4 tank of fuel to clean this thing and while it was cleaning you had to keep driving until it was done.  So if it started cleaning and I was almost home I had to drive around like a fool for 20 to 30 minutes until it ws done.  Don't know who at Ford thougth up this plan.

 

Needless to say those are all gone.  Sorry in advance to the environmentalist folks, but it was killing me in fuel costs and performance.  I had spoken to several diesel owners including my father before I ordered my truck and they were all getting around 20 to 25 miles per gallon.  You can imagine my surprise a 10!!:smileymad:  Anyway I am now getting 14 in town and 19 to 20 hwy.  

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Hey BeeBee, while I consider myself an environmentalist I don't blame you for taking that diesel particle system off of your truck! Also consider myself a mechanic and who knows who comes up with these supposed pollution reducing devices? And how much are you reducing pollution/saving energy/fuel by driving around wasting diesel to burn the particles out?

 

Do you happen to have the 2008 Super Duty w/6.4L Power Stroke engine where they had recall 07S49 on this diesel particle system? Check out the below article where flames are shooting out of the exhaust in the video. Think this poses any hazard and as if there aren't already enough wildfires out West!

 

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-07-01.php

 

CJ, yeah there are a bunch of inconsiderate people in this world who park in the handicap spaces when they shouldn't. Also irritates the heck out of me when people sit in these places, or in the fire lanes in front of stores, playing the loudest obnoxious music you don't even want to hear!

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Yep Uni that is what I have.  The 6.4.  I have seen other videos, albeit without the flames, that show where a guy backed his truck into his driveway with his pipe existing the rear by his garage door.  Around the corner he had vinyl siding.  His truck was ideling and was in regen mode and literally melted his siding.

 

That regen mode is bad news.   I can't believe there haven't been more issues with this set up.  On the '11 and '12 models they switched to Urea instead of using diesel to clean the DPF.  You still have to buy that Urea stuff in jugs and keep it around when you need to fill the Urea tank back up.  Not cheap either.

 

I don't have to worry about any of that anymore.  Of course I had to get a tuner that eliminates all of the polution stuff in the computer so it doesn't throw DTC's and turn on all of the lights on the instrument panel.  Well worth it for the additional power and fuel milage.  I would say it's already paid for itself in just the fuel costs alone.

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So now you have to pour pee into the system to clean the diesel particles out?? LOL.

 

Guess maybe if you have vehicle inspections out there you don't need the regen system to pass? Just curious if you take your truck off-road or 4-wheeling? Noticed the brush guard on the front.

 

Even though we have 4 Jeeps in the family I don't go off-road much. Used to take my 96 Grand Cherokee 4.0L to my buddies and drive his steep trails through the woods. Lots of fun, particularly in the snow, but a little hard on it. Will go about anywhere in 4WD low but you also need good tires geared to the conditions. I've seen those guys who take their Jeeps rock crawling which is nuts!

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Yeah, I'm not sure why it's called Urea or what's in it?  Probably better if I leave that subject alone!!

 

We are supposed to pass inspection once a year but I have a customer of mine that has a semi truck dealership with service and the service manager and I are pretty close.  I take it over to their place and they basically honk the horn, turn on the wipers, check lights and blinkers, check for tread on the tires, and slap the sticker on.  If for some reason they would not pass it again, I can get a sticker but the price will be a little more.  Ya know what I mean?

 

I don't get off road too much around here as they have closed off areas that people could go 4 wheeling.  Most of them were dry creek beds, or areas with no development due to being in a flood plain.  The city ended turning them into city parks which are not really used as parks but the ordinance for city parks applies.  No vehicles off the roadway, no alcoholic beverages allowed, no open flames except in BBQ pits, etc.  They just did that to keep people out of the areas because youngsters would go back up the creeks and find a spot to sit and have a party around a bond fire and the cop cars could not get back there if there was an emergency or to run them off if music was too loud, etc.  You know all the normal fun stuff youngersters do!!  The guard is mainly for deer.  If you get out on the side roads out of town they will come out of nowhere.  There are 9 radiators behind the front (plastic) grill so one deer and your done.  

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I wish Americans weren't so against diesel vehicles.  Take a look at the milage ratings from Europe.

 

 

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Hey Uni.  Let's talk.  At my age I've got plenty extra of that stuff.  Could bottle it and sell it for cleaning diesel particle removal systems.  I'LL BE A MILLIONAIRE!!!

 

Sorry.  Couldn't resist.

 

Our 1997, pusher motorhome had a 300 hp Cummins diesel engine which I dearly loved.  6 speed Allison transmission.  It was a delight to drive.....easier than a car.  Pulling our Camry behind it added up to a total of about 31,000 lbs. rolling down the road.  It never phased that Cummins.  We had an opportunity to tour a huge Cummins plant near Jamestown, NY.  It was huge.  Standing at the entrance to the main room you could not see the wall on the opposite side.  I have no idea how many acres were under that one roof.  Cummins quality control is amazing.  EVERY engine....not just a sample....is completely tested and has to meet minimum standards or it is pulled.

Interestingly....the blocks were cast in Argentina (I think it was).  We asked why.  Answer was that all blocks were x-rayed before being put on the assmely line and the Argentina blocks had a much lower rejection rate (approaching zero) than the American cast blocks.   That hurt to hear.

 

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Anybody care to loan me $6K?  :smileysad:  That's the cost for replacing 30 YO iron pipe that is springing pinholes everywhere!  Second ceiling leak in master closet in  2 years time.  Plain ceiling in there, if leaks start in other rooms, texture could never be duplicated to my liking!  Has to be done, and at least it will be no-worry with PEX, in my lifetime.  Why are we so slow to adapt to things being used/done in other countries for years (like the diesel discussion).  :smileysad:

 

 

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spd2demun wrote:

Anybody care to loan me $6K?  :smileysad:  That's the cost for replacing 30 YO iron pipe that is springing pinholes everywhere!  Second ceiling leak in master closet in  2 years time.  Plain ceiling in there, if leaks start in other rooms, texture could never be duplicated to my liking!  Has to be done, and at least it will be no-worry with PEX, in my lifetime.  Why are we so slow to adapt to things being used/done in other countries for years (like the diesel discussion).  :smileysad:

 

 


 

It's funny, the house I bought has PEX, I don't have an issue with it. However; there were a couple of builders touting that they still used copper tubing.  Since my wife works for an HVAC/Plumbing company, I had her ask the more senior plumbers, nothing wrong with PEX.

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spd2demun wrote:

Anybody care to loan me $6K?  :smileysad:  That's the cost for replacing 30 YO iron pipe that is springing pinholes everywhere!  Second ceiling leak in master closet in  2 years time.  Plain ceiling in there, if leaks start in other rooms, texture could never be duplicated to my liking!  Has to be done, and at least it will be no-worry with PEX, in my lifetime.  Why are we so slow to adapt to things being used/done in other countries for years (like the diesel discussion).  :smileysad:

 

 



Wow, 30 years is pretty recent for galvanized pipe. Most homes around here 30 years or less have copper or PVC/CPVC. Do you use a water softner? That will cause old galvanized pipe to start leaking.

 

 




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PEX has been used in other countries since the '70's!  I think we have people here with old stock and old ways, so why do something new?

 

I've talked to 3 plumbers and all have said you're going to see problems around 30 yrs.  Water is very hard here, have thought about a softner, but never did it.  Chloramine is now being used (instead of Chlorine) since they switched us to surface water from the city (prices went way up for that!).  Take a shower, smells like you bathed in Clorox! 

 

At this point, I have no choice, keep dealing with leaks until all the ceilings come down and furnishings get destroyed, or replace it all.  Damage is done, twice in the master closet is two too many!

 

New copper is behind walls of both baths, and replaced copper for all water connections indoors with burst-resistant hoses in the past few years.  Copper under sinks had started leaking in one bathroom. :smileysad:

 

PVC has been a disaster here with it freezing in attics and bursting.  Remember, we don't have basements, so everything is in the attic and if you don't have tons of insulation, disaster awaits.   Copper can still freeze and cause water discoloration, and the price of copper is through the roof these days.

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We also have no basement.  But all our water pipes run through the ground....down underneath the poured concrete floor and are only exposed in the furnace/water heater closet.  As long as the water heater is working and/or the furnace is working, freezing should never be a problem.  I hope.  Our house was built in 2003 and interestingly the water pipes are copper.  Drain and sewer pipes are all PVC or something similar.  Of course if a water pipe breaks underneath the house......concrete floor would have ben dug up....or the lines cut and a bypass run around the break.  Got my fingers crossed.

 

Right now folks all over the greater Kansas City area are having problems with basement walls and foundations cracking apart.  Houses are settling....severely in some cases....pulling the homes in half or into thirds.  Binding doors are usually the first indication of a developing problem.   The cause is the nearly 100 day long drought.  We need rain, rain, rain and more rain.   The ground is drying severely and deeply.  It pulls away from the foundation and, with no support, the foundations start to shift and/or crack.  If it gets bad enough a house can literally fall off its foundation.  Latest stories on the news tell of foundation specialists working overtime-plus.....trying to keep up.

 

I went to the hardware store and purchased a 50 ft. length of soaker house and I've been laying it on the ground.....within about 12 inches of our footings and letting the water soak into the earth for up to two hours along each wall.  The earth has shrunk and, in some spots, pulled 1 to 2 inches away from the concrete.  I may go get another 50 ft. of that soaker hose so I don't have to physically move it so often.   Sure hope these weather patterns start shifting.  It's been a bit cooler than July.....but still no rain.  The top boss must be really angry with us.

 

By the way.....if you are stuck with copper pipes in locations where they could be exposed to freezing temperatures they could be wrapped with thermostatically controlled electric heat tape.  In a previous residence that is what we had for exposed pipes.  BUT....can't use if for PVC or other similar non-metallic pipe.  Or...at least...that is what I'm told.

 

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Ours are in the slab as well, but only access is through the attic. 

 

I put river rock around all sides of house and garage where dirt is, and sprinkler system keeps things watered.  Some settling over 30+ yrs., but not seeing anything major indoors, I hope!  After pulling up the carpet, there are hairline cracks in some areas of the slab, but none are straight, nothing on walls.

 

Have thought about the fact that putting tile down will be a real problem if slab ever needs repair, and I know someone who has been through that.  But with the possibility of flooding, tile wins hands down vs. carpet!  Would like to have wood floors, but with cats, that's a no-go.

 

On to another topic, we've been finding LOTS of bird feathers in the front yard, but no bodies, not sure what's going on.  Are they just molting, or is this from the W. Nile outbreak here?  Son spotted a red bird leg in backyard, just ripped out.  Only red-legged bird I can think of is a pigeon?

 

A few nights ago, thought some flying roaches or the resident mega-moth had taken residence in some faux flora above garage door.  Looked closer with a flashlight and it was 2 tiny fledglings!  Tiny tails sticking out and could see pinfeathers on wings.  They were gone at daylight, but wonder if they are orphans from the bird leg we found. :smileysad:

 

I've learned to be careful when watering hanging baskets as small birds nest in them sometimes.

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We also have no basement.  But all our water pipes run through the ground....down underneath the poured concrete floor and are only exposed in the furnace/water heater closet.  As long as the water heater is working and/or the furnace is working, freezing should never be a problem.  I hope.  Our house was built in 2003 and interestingly the water pipes are copper.  Drain and sewer pipes are all PVC or something similar.  Of course if a water pipe breaks underneath the house......concrete floor would have ben dug up....or the lines cut and a bypass run around the break.  Got my fingers crossed.

 

Right now folks all over the greater Kansas City area are having problems with basement walls and foundations cracking apart.  Houses are settling....severely in some cases....pulling the homes in half or into thirds.  Binding doors are usually the first indication of a developing problem.   The cause is the nearly 100 day long drought.  We need rain, rain, rain and more rain.   The ground is drying severely and deeply.  It pulls away from the foundation and, with no support, the foundations start to shift and/or crack.  If it gets bad enough a house can literally fall off its foundation.  Latest stories on the news tell of foundation specialists working overtime-plus.....trying to keep up.

 

I went to the hardware store and purchased a 50 ft. length of soaker house and I've been laying it on the ground.....within about 12 inches of our footings and letting the water soak into the earth for up to two hours along each wall.  The earth has shrunk and, in some spots, pulled 1 to 2 inches away from the concrete.  I may go get another 50 ft. of that soaker hose so I don't have to physically move it so often.   Sure hope these weather patterns start shifting.  It's been a bit cooler than July.....but still no rain.  The top boss must be really angry with us.

 

By the way.....if you are stuck with copper pipes in locations where they could be exposed to freezing temperatures they could be wrapped with thermostatically controlled electric heat tape.  In a previous residence that is what we had for exposed pipes.  BUT....can't use if for PVC or other similar non-metallic pipe.  Or...at least...that is what I'm told.

 



Sure you can, heat tapes are at most a couple hundred watts, and that is spread over the length of the tape, because they are meant to keep the pipe just above freezing and most can't actually thaw a pipe that is already frozen. PVC pipe is good to around 140F IIRC and CPVC 200F.

 

 




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OK, C.J.  Thanks.  That's good to know.

 

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SPD....Probably Doves your seeing.  Having allot of that here in SA also.  They don't have any water.  When my sprinker system comes on you better watch out!!  Birds from far and near......It's amazing how well they get along when all kinds just want a little water!!

 

Phil - I actually buried my soaker hose about 4" underground where I have a bed and my sprinker system doesn't get.  It's about a three foot space between the house and the front walk that runs from the driveway, along the front of the house about 15 ft. then around the corner to the front door which is about 30 ft.  I just leave it disconnected from the from hose bib until I need it, then connect it and let it run about 24 hours on low so as not to over do it or put too much water down to fast.  It seems to work better the slower and longer the better.  No run off that way.

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BB, think you're right, I've never seen a pigeon in the 'hood, only in the city!  Leg was gone this morning, so guess the raccoons ate it. :smileysad:  More feathers out front again today, and no cats outside that I've seen.  I know there are owls around here, could be what killed it.

 

Speaking of cats, heard a fuss and found Jill had Betsy cornered!  Females who fight for dominance, LOL!  Came back later and see one of my laptop number keys is hooved up, and #5 is missing!  I'll be hunting for parts tomorrow and hope it can be fixed!   Cats, kids, what's the difference?  :smileyvery-happy:

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Cat Fight!?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrL9z3Kvww

 

 

 




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