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U-verse for BUSINESS? : 2Wire 3600HGV bridge mode? or another AT&T supported VDSL modem?

I am having trouble properly configuring this AT&T 2Wire 3600HGV modem for my network. Maybe someone is aware of a different firmware for this product?

 

I am completely aware of how to setup the DMZ mode & router behind router setup in these boxes but that is NOT the point. (We have supported firewalled networked equipment working that has all the bells & whistles including QoS)

 

In the event of a factory reset of the AT&T 2Wire VDSL modem at this business, I want to properly insure the following business requirements are met:

- DHCP - OFF (at min, it appears you must leave one available?)

- WiFi - OFF (Yes this can be turned off, but bridging it always insured it was turned off in the past. ON is a security concern among just bad business i.e. conflict with other business WiFi, employees might see/use this non-content filtered WiFi, etc etc)

- & passing off internet service needs to be easy to another networked supported OUTSIDE of AT&T firewall. (I'm NOT asking for AT&T support on this, but in the bridge DSL world, this was EASY)

- if bridging this 2Wire is NOT an option, backing up the configuration settings would be a nice alternative but that is not available as well?

 

Bridging the old DSL modems always worked nicely but the 2Wire 3XXXHGV line appears to be the ONLY ones to support the AT&T VDSL Max Turbo speeds. 24Mbps down / 3 Mbps up which we use not only for normal business operations (credit cards, business email, web based training, etc) but this high speed is required to view onsite security video (3Mbps up) and offer customers FAST free WiFi!

 

AT&T U-Verse offers the right price, contract, speed, internet package & installers to properly handle our resturant locations company's data needs but I'm struggling with the their "business" support of this 2Wire VDSL modem product. We ONLY use the internet, no TV (not legally available for restaurants, yet). No Voip because POTS is our reliable backup. So it's just the internet service ...

 

For coverage on AT&T Uverse, we have over 50 locations lit up like a Christmas tree but sadly business support on this product is driving me nutz! Maybe because I now see this is listed under "Residential Gateway"? Is this AT&T 2Wire VDSL modem product not meant for business? Is anyone aware of another supported AT&T VDSL modem or a different 2Wire firmware available? Official AT&T support has me running in circles (AT&T U-verse support > AT&T Connecttech > AT&T Connecttech360 > AT&T U-verse support, rinse, repeat)  

 

help?

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There is no true bridge mode on the 2Wire routers.  However, you can still configure it such that almost all functions of your own router will work properly.

 

1. Set your router's WAN interface to get an IP address via DHCP.  This is required at first so that the 2Wire recognizes your router.

2. Plug your router's WAN interface to one of the 2Wire's LAN interfaces.

3. Restart your router, let it get an IP address via DHCP.

4. Log into the 2Wire router's interface.  Go to Settings -> Firewall -> Applications, Pinholes, and DMZ

5. Select your router under section (1).

6. Click the DMZPlus button under section (2).

7. Click the Save button.

8. Restart your router, when it gets an address via DHCP again, it will be the public outside IP address.  At this point, you can leave your router in DHCP mode (make sure the firewall on your router allows the DHCP renewal packets, which will occur every 10 minutes), or you can change your router's IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and use the same settings it received via DHCP.

9. On the 2Wire router, go to Settings -> Firewall -> Advanced Configuration

10. Uncheck the following: Stealth Mode, Block Ping, Strict UDP Session Control.

11. Check everything under Outbound Protocol Control except NetBIOS.

12. Uncheck NetBIOS under Inbound Protocol Control.

13. Uncheck all the Attack Detection checkboxes (7 of them).

14. Click Save.

 

Your router should now be able to route as if the 2Wire was a straight bridge, for the most part.

 

Inbound port 22 might be blocked, and inbound ports 8000-8015 might also be blocked, and there's nothing that can be done about it.

 

This is how I have my 2Wire configured, and I have a Cisco 2811 behind it doing IPSec, IPv6 tunnels, etc.

 

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jamesvdale,

 

Yes, you simultaneously need the Linksys to act just as a wireless access point upstairs, while also operating as a router for the entire network.

 

This will not be possible using only one Linksys.

 

You will need to get a 2nd one (or perhaps buy just a wireless access point, which might be less expensive).

 

Set up one as a wireless access point upstairs, using the method in post #13.

 

Set up the 2nd one next to the RG using the method in post #2, and configure parental controls on that one.  Turn the wireless on the RG off, and use the wireless on this 2nd Linksys to cover the downstairs.

 

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I have set up a Asus RT N56u router behid my 3801 succsessfuly using the guide at the beginning of the post and changed the sub net to xxx.xxx.2 and can reach the 2 wire GUI page. I would like to forward ports on two of my network PC.

I added a TCP port forward rule on the Asus router specifying each PC's IP address and the PORT i wanted open. This did not work.

 

I think I need to create a port forward on the 2wire router. I have tried adding a Port forward rule sellecting the IP address the 3801 has assigned the Asus router and worwarding the same port called out it the rules on the Asus router. Still no luck. Was hopping someone here could give me a hand.

Thanks

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If you have set up your Asus in the DMZ in accordance with post #2, then there are no further settings you need to worry about on the 2Wire. All port forwarding will be handled by your Asus.

Check your firewall configuration on the Asus again, make sure the ports and IP addresses are correct. Remember that to test your configuration, you probably will need to use a computer that is not on your home network.
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I have used the uTorent built in Port Forward test and a second port forward test app to check and both come back as a negative. I used the Port forward.com guide for my Asus router to set up the two PF rules on the Asus router. I'm basically using the ports that uTorent is configured for on both PC and adding a tcp rule that specifies the IP address of each PC. The PC addresses are selectable from a list so I could not have messed them up. 

 

 

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Make sure you have followed all steps of the post 2 procedure, especially steps 9-14.  If steps 9-14 aren't followed, some traffic may get blocked.

 

 

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veger69 wrote:

I have used the uTorent built in Port Forward test and a second port forward test app to check and both come back as a negative. I used the Port forward.com guide for my Asus router to set up the two PF rules on the Asus router. I'm basically using the ports that uTorent is configured for on both PC and adding a tcp rule that specifies the IP address of each PC. The PC addresses are selectable from a list so I could not have messed them up. 

 

 



Are you using the same ports numbers for both PCs? Most routers will not forward the same port to more than one pc at a time. You will have to set your torrent client on one of the PCs to use a different port.

 

 




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I have my belkin router setup behind the ATT router and all is working but when streaming video from the internet, my slingbox or playing xbox live the signal stutters every so often and even times out sometimes losing connection. On xbox live i get dropped from games and can never finish a game on Madden. Hooked up to the ATT router this does not happen any ideas what going on?
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Somejoe7777 and others, thank you for all the invaluable posts in this thread.  Had this been around when UVerse first came to our

neighborhood, we might have made the switch much sooner.

 

I may have missed it, but I don't really see anything regarding whether post #2 as written, applies to "5-static-IP" service.

Is this the wrong thread for that?  Or?...

We are preparing to move off an existing AT&T 5-static-IP DSL service, onto UVerse Business Class, and from what I gather, the end 

result should be fairly similar to what we're running now.  Or will it?

 

Our current service uses a Netopia Cayman 3220H in bridge mode, to manage the PPPoE connection to AT&T.  We have a /29 netblock,

and the Cayman is using the "110' station address (xxx.xxx.xxx.62) as gateway.  The connection goes from the Cayman LAN port into an

OpenBSD firewall/webserver system, where it is bridged to our DMZ. A third NIC connects the internal NAT network.  All public servers in

the DMZ are configured with external IP addresses, and use the "110" station address in the Cayman as gateway, not the OBSD box.  

 

Reading post #2, given "5-static-IP" service, will I still need to initially set the WAN NIC in the OBSD box to DHCP? 

 

In step 8, which of the 5 static IP address will the OBSD box be given?  (From what I understand, it will still not be our gateway.)

Or at that point, can I just reconfigure it to use any of the station addresses in our new netblock? 

 

Will the 2Wire 3600HGV form any sort of bond with the MAC address of the WAN port NIC in the OBSD system, or any of the other public

servers?

 

With the UVerse service, will my public servers still use the "110" station address as gateway?  Or?

 

Many thanks again.  Here's hoping this transition goes smoother than the last one...

 

Cheers,
Jeff

 

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jac00k wrote:

Somejoe7777 and others, thank you for all the invaluable posts in this thread.  Had this been around when UVerse first came to our

neighborhood, we might have made the switch much sooner.

 

I may have missed it, but I don't really see anything regarding whether post #2 as written, applies to "5-static-IP" service.

Is this the wrong thread for that?  Or?...

We are preparing to move off an existing AT&T 5-static-IP DSL service, onto UVerse Business Class, and from what I gather, the end 

result should be fairly similar to what we're running now.  Or will it?

 

Our current service uses a Netopia Cayman 3220H in bridge mode, to manage the PPPoE connection to AT&T.  We have a /29 netblock,

and the Cayman is using the "110' station address (xxx.xxx.xxx.62) as gateway.  The connection goes from the Cayman LAN port into an

OpenBSD firewall/webserver system, where it is bridged to our DMZ. A third NIC connects the internal NAT network.  All public servers in

the DMZ are configured with external IP addresses, and use the "110" station address in the Cayman as gateway, not the OBSD box.  

 

Reading post #2, given "5-static-IP" service, will I still need to initially set the WAN NIC in the OBSD box to DHCP? 

 

In step 8, which of the 5 static IP address will the OBSD box be given?  (From what I understand, it will still not be our gateway.)

Or at that point, can I just reconfigure it to use any of the station addresses in our new netblock? 

 

Will the 2Wire 3600HGV form any sort of bond with the MAC address of the WAN port NIC in the OBSD system, or any of the other public

servers?

 

With the UVerse service, will my public servers still use the "110" station address as gateway?  Or?

 

Many thanks again.  Here's hoping this transition goes smoother than the last one...

 

Cheers,
Jeff

 

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A lot will depend on what flavor Uverse Internet (VDSL or ADSL2+) you end up with, because that will determine which Modem/Gateway you receive and the steps neccessary for configuration. More than likely you should be able to ditch the Netopia, if all it's handling is the PPoE login.

 

 




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I'm having a hard time visualizing your configuration.  Do note that the RG's used for VDSL2 service do not allow more than one static IP to be handled by the same MAC address, so if you intend to have any router or firewall servicing traffic for more than one of your static IP's, you may have an issue with that flavor of Uverse.

 

 

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I have the 3801 and have the wireless boxes so one port has the wireless box sending unit plugged in.  I also have a WD MyBookLive network drive attached to it as well as the DVR.  I have several wireless devices running on the 3801 but the 3801 seems slower than my Netgear 750.  I want to link the two, basically want to plug the wireless box sending unit and my DVR into the 3801, and attach the WD MyBookLive to the Netgear router as well as my TV, AVR, Playstation and XBOX.  I would have all my wireless devices connect to the Netgear since it's faster and better range.  How can I do this and still be able to use my iphone as a remote for the uverse boxes in the house? 

 

Would I follow post 13 to accomplish this or do I need to do something else?

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if you get this working let me know if you have can stay online through the netgear.  i set a router up behind the 2Wire and my internet times out sometimes...i especially lose connection when playing online games.  This does not happen when connected directly to the 2Wire.

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JefferMC wrote:

I'm having a hard time visualizing your configuration.  Do note that the RG's used for VDSL2 service do not allow more than one static IP to be handled by the same MAC address, so if you intend to have any router or firewall servicing traffic for more than one of your static IP's, you may have an issue with that flavor of Uverse.

 

 


 

The DMZ segment is configured in the OpenBSD system as a transparent firewalled bridge.  All DMZ traffic on the segment between the Cayman and the Inet NIC in the OpenBSD system, appears to the Cayman as if the connections were directly between DMZ hosts and the Cayman itself.  The arp and bridge tables in the Cayman show the MAC addresses of the physical NICs in each DMZ host.

 

I see no reason why the U-verse 2Wire gateway would see things any differently.

 

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Bridge: Okay.

Router: Not okay.

 

The issue is that every IP has to have a unique MAC address.  A bridge will accomplish that.

 

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First, I'd like to say thanks to Joe and others for all the help Ive seen in this post.

 

Ive read through most of this stream and cant quite figure out what route I should take. I want to run the following through a linksys E3200 as a second router connected to RG:

 

-NAS for backups and streaming files to TV

-wireless traffic for computers

-internet traffic on TV

 

Ive tried several different configurations for the two routers but nothing completely works.

Should I setup them up following post 2 or 13?

 

Thanks preemptively for the help.

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Either method should work for those purposes, but since you don't need an independent firewall or routing solution, post 13 should do nicely.

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welp, I actually followed the directions. everything working pretty smoothly so far. Have NAS access from all computers. Thanks for the help and tutorial.

 

sidebar: I have a samsung ln40c660 TV with DLNA built in through their AllShare function, and the only way I can play files from my computer to it is with the Play To option in windows media player. For some reason my TV doesnt see my computer's shared media but more frustrating it sees shared media on another computer. 

 

Any thoughts on that are greatly appreciated.

 

Again thanks for all the invaluable info.

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bss868s wrote:

welp, I actually followed the directions. everything working pretty smoothly so far. Have NAS access from all computers. Thanks for the help and tutorial.

 

sidebar: I have a samsung ln40c660 TV with DLNA built in through their AllShare function, and the only way I can play files from my computer to it is with the Play To option in windows media player. For some reason my TV doesnt see my computer's shared media but more frustrating it sees shared media on another computer. 

 

Any thoughts on that are greatly appreciated.

 

Again thanks for all the invaluable info.



Congrats on your success.

 

As far as the computer goes, if it's a WIn 7 box, you'll need to have media sharing turned on. Also, some devices will not see the shared media unless the files are stored in folders with a particular name.

 

 




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somejoe, 

 

do u have any knowledge on the motorola 2310 modem?  i ordered uverse today after being stuck with my 3MB/s dsl which was performing at dialup-like speeds of 1MB/s on a consistent basis.  the service options are severely limited in my condo building, so i will be sticking with att--which finally rolled out the uverse service to my building.  im in the south loop in chicago, where there are literally 20-30 mid-high rise buildings with a pretty high population density.  the fact that i was stuck with 3MB/s as the best possible speed avaialble in my building is pretty asinine, but that's another story.

 

anyways, i asked the csr for a standalone modem, because i want to use my own wireless router (apple time capsule--which includes my nas).  she informed me that the only device available for uverse is the 3600hgv.  i immediately started researching if this would present any conflicts with my router, and of course, it does.  turns out there is a standalone modem--the moto 2310--which commands quite the premium and is in low supply.  i would rather use this if it is a more straightforward setup (not DMZ), similar to my current DSL modem to router configuration.  i can't seem to find much info about the moto 2310 and how it bridges with routers.  would you happen to know?

 

also, based on your instructions on message 2, it appears that if modem (3600HGV) ever had to be reset, i would have to follow that procedure all over again to get my network back up and running.  is that correct?  

 

thanx for your help in advance!

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i should note that this is not for a biz acct, and unless uverse is different from my current dsl, i will not have a static external IP.

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somejoe, 

 

do u have any knowledge on the motorola 2310 modem?  i ordered uverse today after being stuck with my 3MB/s dsl which was performing at dialup-like speeds of 1MB/s on a consistent basis.  the service options are severely limited in my condo building, so i will be sticking with att--which finally rolled out the uverse service to my building.  im in the south loop in chicago, where there are literally 20-30 mid-high rise buildings with a pretty high population density.  the fact that i was stuck with 3MB/s as the best possible speed avaialble in my building is pretty asinine, but that's another story.

 

anyways, i asked the csr for a standalone modem, because i want to use my own wireless router (apple time capsule--which includes my nas).  she informed me that the only device available for uverse is the 3600hgv.  i immediately started researching if this would present any conflicts with my router, and of course, it does.  turns out there is a standalone modem--the moto 2310--which commands quite the premium and is in low supply.  i would rather use this if it is a more straightforward setup (not DMZ), similar to my current DSL modem to router configuration.  i can't seem to find much info about the moto 2310 and how it bridges with routers.  would you happen to know?

 

also, based on your instructions on message 2, it appears that if modem (3600HGV) ever had to be reset, i would have to follow that procedure all over again to get my network back up and running.  is that correct?  

 

thanx for your help in advance!


 

 

If your're looking for a old style passive modem, you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't believe they make them for VDSL.

 

The only differences between the 2310 and the 3600 are the 2310 only has one network (LAN) port and it does not have wireless or VOIP ports for telephones. They both operate in pretty much the same fashion. To use a router behind the 2310 you still need to configure DMZ or IP Passthrough. Both modem/gateways should retain their settings if all you do is reboot or cycle the power. Only a factory reset will wipe all user configs.

 

Although the standard Uverse account comes with what AT&T calls a Dynamic IP Address, it's often referred to as a "Sticky IP" because it hardly ever changes.

 

 




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I see.  I did some further research after posting my question here, and found what you said:  that the 2310 would need to be configured to share the public ip--which is essentially what the dmz+ on the 3600hgv does, right?  I would still prefer the 2310 for it's smaller footprint, since it does everything I need it to do (I don't need voip, iptv, or anything else the 3600hgv offers over the 2310).  

 

But I guess I will have to deal with the large dinosaur of a box in the 3600hgv, since that is the only option that att officially offers--and it seems that the 2310 available on the fleabay probably won't work because of a new firmware upgrade that att will not publicly release.  From my understanding, if the 2310 wasn't plugged in and active as of the end of August 2012, and it didn't receive the pushed firmware update, it will not be able to authenticate currently, and it is little more than a nice $75 bookend.  

 

It only took me over 90 minutes on the phone yesterday to try to get the mythical 6MB/s "upgrade to uverse" on my line, after being told the order couldn't be pushed through about 60 minutes into the call.  A supervisor was required to override the system-generated c**kblock that required me to go to at least 12MB/s down, which I would gladly take--but alas, it is unavail at my location!!  

 

I guess in a few days, I will be chuggin along at something better than the consistent 1MB/s speed I curently get.  Thank you att for allowing me to upgrade from the modern-day 56k dialup plan, where I was actually getting something more like 14.4k connection of 20 years ago...  "Hang on, let me ask my mom to kindly get off the phone, so I can dial in to AOL....'Welcome, you've got mail!!!!'...."  Yaaaaay!!!  I have mail!!

 

 Why can't I just have the simple modems and SPEED of Comcast where I was getting 15-20MB/s down on a consistent basis--8 years ago!?!??!?  No, I'm stuck in the wrath of att--literally the only provider in my building.  It's att dsl/uverse, or access media 3--the biggest joke of a middleman company that takes a single 6MB/s att connection, and shares it with the entire building, rebranding it a "t1 connection."  this "t1 connection" was up until a few months ago, capped at 3MB/s down.  Blazing, I know!!  I might be better off switching to a Verizon LTE data plan in two months when att wireless contract ends, and hotspotting that connection.  I can't be the only one that thinks it's asinine that a cellular connection is capable of consistently getting 3x (17-18MB/s down) the speed of the best available wired connection... can I???  

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SomeJoe7777 wrote:

8. Restart your router, when it gets an address via DHCP again, it will be the public outside IP address.  At this point, you can leave your router in DHCP mode (make sure the firewall on your router allows the DHCP renewal packets, which will occur every 10 minutes), or you can change your router's IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and use the same settings it received via DHCP.


 


I am not too technical when it comes to networking and setting up routers and such, but following your instructions i was able to install a Netgear N600 behind my 2Wire 3801 and all seems to be working ok..i think.  One thing that was not clear to me was step #8.  I went into my Netgears setings and was unable to find a firewall section where i can make changes to it.  What would you recommend I do for completion sake of your instructions?

 

If you were wondering, the reason i decided to use a different router was because i was tired of the very poor wireless performance of the 3801.  It seemed to have a very limited range and dropped connection very often.  I figured after reading a few peoples experience that doing it this way would be the best option for me.  I am not overly concerned with all the fancy features that comes with using a different router, i just wanted better and more reliable wireless network.

 

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If you just wanted better wireless coverage post 13 in this thread would have been the easiest way to go.  It appears that you did post 2 in this thread.  Nothing wrong with that, but it is more complicated and has benefits and drawbacks that #13 does not.

 

As far as the firewall settings in your own router, they normally default to a good protection level for your network.  I wouldn't lose sleep over that.

 

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I am also looking to put a Router behind the RG.  If I do that, can I move my STBs and Uverse connected Xboxes behind the router as well?

 

If so, in my dhcp pools, can I point to a different DNS server? 

 

Does IGMPv3 need to be allowed for the TV to work?

 

Are there any other "gotchas" that you have encountered?

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jdchaiken wrote:

I am also looking to put a Router behind the RG.  If I do that, can I move my STBs and Uverse connected Xboxes behind the router as well?

 

If so, in my dhcp pools, can I point to a different DNS server? 

 

Does IGMPv3 need to be allowed for the TV to work?

 

Are there any other "gotchas" that you have encountered?


You really don't want to do that.

(1) Yes, IGMPv3 would have to be allowed for it to work correctly.  Few, if any, consumer grade devices provide this.

(2) The RG must provide the DHCP for the DVR and STB

(3) The RG must provide the DNS for the DVR and STB

 

You're better off keeping your IPTV directly connected to the RG, and your data network separate.

 

 

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Thanks for this! I used this method and everything went swimmingly.. until one thing didn't. I'm now unable to maintain a screen sharing connection between my MBP (mountain lion) and my Mac Mini. Could this be caused by this particular network configuration?

 

Here's a bit more info:

  • The 2WIRE and Airport Extreme 1 are in my office, connected by ethernet
  • The Mac Mini and Airport Extreme 2 are in my living room connected by ethernet
  • All of my devices are connected to the network created by AE1 and extended by AE2
  • Periodically, Screen Sharing will disconnect and I'll be asked to reauthenticate
  • Only happens with Screen Sharing, not while browsing the Mini via Finder

If you think my issue is unrelated, I'll absolutely believe you — there are so many variables, even in my relatively simple home network — but if you think of anything I might try, I'd be happy for the advice.

 

Thanks!

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Can the Mac Mini and the MBP ping each other on the network? If so, then your network is set up correctly.

If not, then I would look at how the two AEs are connected to the network. One can be acting as a router (the one next to the 2Wire). The other probably needs to act as just a bridge or wireless access point, with no routing functionality enabled.
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Hi Joe. My son accesses the Internet through a wireless adapter on his PC.  I need my ATT 3800 to bridge and my Linksys WRT160n wireless router to route so that I can limit his online gaming with the WRT's support for timed access control.   I've followed the fourteen steps in "message 2" and I disabled wireless access to my 3800 (why isn't that step 15?). His PC finds the WRT okay, but can't access the Internet. My PC, and some other devices connected to the wired ports of the WRT *are* able to access the Internet.  Am I missing something obvious?  Thanks.

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If the wired ports of the WRT are working, but the wireless isn't, then the 2Wire 3800 is set up correctly. The problem is either with the setup of the wireless parameters on the WRT (SSID, encryption type, password, MAC address filtering), or his settings on his PC don't match what's set up on the WRT.

Also, since you're using the access controls on the WRT, make sure they're set correctly and the WRT isn't actively blocking his access when it shouldn't.
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