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09-25-2012 06:04:24 AM
Thank you...will do
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09-27-2012 09:01:38 PM
I've now had 6 techs out, both inside and outside, come out to try to fix my intermittent issues. Service for the last 2 years was flawless after a really painful install until about 2 months ago. It's been up and down since then, generally middle of the day until early evening, of course when I'm at home telecommuting. During the original install, we had 2 months of intermittent pain that was finally fixed by a line tech who was able to come out when the line was down and find the issue, thanks to a persistent tech who is no longer with ATT it seems (tried the number he left us).
For the current issue, it's been a constant game of the inside guys saying it's the outside guys and the outside guys saying it's the inside guys. RG replaced, twice. Originally 3800, now 3801's. "Senior tech" was the last here who said it was a line issue outside the house, but a line guy never showed and nothing changed with quality of service. That was 9 days ago. I called again today and amazingly 2 outside guys showed up and said the line was "flawless" but switched pairs anyways. Took a long time for RG to sync and was up for 90 minutes before starting going up and down again. Line guys say that "it's the RG and refurb RG's have issues with grounds on the return line", which we've never heard. Again, it was flawless service that suddenly went bad and lots of line work inside and out done. We are now labeled a "chronic caller" per the last TS person.
Looking at the bitloading graph from UV Realtime (I'll post if someone can tell me how...) doesn't look anything like the original install being much "spikier" and having a "ramp up" in the beginning that people above say is a bridge tap. I asked the line techs about that and they said "no".
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09-27-2012 10:04:14 PM
Hrmm, images uploaded into my profile, but "Insert/edit image" doesn't give me the options to use them like the guide says. Hrmm.
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09-28-2012 04:56:12 AM
Perhaps you're using a browser that the little insert doesn't work with. If you have photo sharing site, you could uploade there and post links.

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09-28-2012 07:36:44 AM
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09-28-2012 07:41:32 AM
Hey graphicsman, sounds like you have in the same boat that i was. I was able to see your screen shots in your profile, you might have a bridge tap on you line but i'm not sure.
How far are you from the VRAD? Can you post a picture of the IP/profile tab?
In the end i was switched to a INID to fix my issues. This uses two pairs instead of one doubling the bandwitdh to the house.
Since you already have had TS out and are getting no where you should contact ATTAlexCM.
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09-28-2012 09:04:45 AM
Here is the IP tab from the last drop and resync 7 hours ago.
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09-28-2012 09:13:18 AM
graphicsman, I agree with bossman, please click on this link to send a PM to Alex, one of the AT&T Community Managers, for further assistance. He can get "the right people" on your problem.
The 3801 makes it a lot harder to decide whether or not you have a bridge tap. You might, but I'm not convinved just from the Bitloading graph. But your error counts clearly show you have problems somewhere between your RG and the VRAD.

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09-28-2012 09:47:59 AM
So UV Realtime shows you are 2000 feet from the vrad. When i did my It told me I was 2000 feet away aswell but i was really over 3000 feet from it. If a tech gets sent out again ask him how far you really are. What may happening is you are to far from the vrad and as more people switched to uverse you signal got weaker. INID maybe the solution. Mine was installed about a month ago and since I've had 0 issues.
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09-28-2012 11:06:28 AM
bossman302 wrote:
So UV Realtime shows you are 2000 feet from the vrad. When i did my It told me I was 2000 feet away aswell but i was really over 3000 feet from it. If a tech gets sent out again ask him how far you really are. What may happening is you are to far from the vrad and as more people switched to uverse you signal got weaker. INID maybe the solution. Mine was installed about a month ago and since I've had 0 issues.
Not ready to jump to the conclusion that Bonded Pair is necessary. He's got really good bandwidth numbers. I think it likely he has some reflection issues (i.e. bridge tap).

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10-02-2012 10:29:33 AM
Another inside tech to the house on Saturday. Reran a test wire from NID to RG and saw identical problems and graphs, put in a ticket for a line guy. Swapped RGs out, again, to a 3800, same graphs and issues (and a few new ones like the 3800 not renewing DHCP leases). Never heard/saw line guy, but called the tech today and according to him line guy said "line is perfect, must be something inside". This is getting frustrating. At least I found a tech that is proactively trying to help and said he has elevated to his manager. This sucks. ATT Billing refuses to refund or credit anything. What exactly am I paying for?
Graphs after latest round:
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10-02-2012 03:40:32 PM
They are going to attempt to drop my profile speed it seems. Hrmm. I'll try anything, but I think it's in the lines.
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10-02-2012 03:49:56 PM
You might have an interference issue. You can try doing some of the things that are posted here
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10-02-2012 04:52:40 PM
Dropped profile, no real improvement. Got "lucky" with the intermittent issue hitting and failed to sync stable at the new reduced profile. Tech switched cards in the VRAD and the bitloading graph looks better, still not clean. We'll see how long this holds up, but I'm optimistic. I'll start looking for noise sources, but nothing has changed in the house in the last year and service just went wonky in the last few months and the heat swings make it worse.
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10-03-2012 08:26:59 AM
Nope. Up and down all night. :-(
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10-03-2012 05:09:46 PM - edited 10-03-2012 05:11:41 PM
I have had the Uverse service at this location for about 5 months. I had problems right from the begining. First I was getting random freeze ups and the picture would picelate. That lasted for about 3 weeks. Then I was getting loss of service on the TV side for an hour or so at a time. That lasted for about a week or so. Then on my second receiver I would have to reset it every time I wanted to use it, they eventually sent me a new receiver. Now for the past month or so I have had random drops of service in both internet and TV every night for 30 seconds at a time or so.
Here are my stats.


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10-04-2012 06:09:44 AM
ambrosierj, your bitloading graph is a mess. If you have not already done so, please call AT&T Technical Support at 800-288-2020 and tell them the problems you are having. They should send someone out to your home to confirm where the issue lies and call in a line technician as necessary.

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10-04-2012 09:38:52 AM
My problems continue. I've turned off all the breakers except for the router and computer running UV Realtime and unplugged everything else from those circuits. Still have drops and noise in the graph. It's outside somewhere.
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10-04-2012 09:50:00 AM - edited 10-04-2012 10:20:32 AM
JefferMC Anything specific about the graph? Any specific problem you see?
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10-04-2012 09:51:42 AM
Graph looks unchanged from what I posted above.
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10-04-2012 12:16:00 PM
ambrosierj wrote:
JefferMC Anything specific about the graph? Any specific problem you see?
Each of the segments of your graph should gently slope down with a minimum of valleys or gaps. Each of those gaps or valleys shows a frequency range that your RG decided it couldn't use properly due to interference of some sort, either due to external interfence (Radio, etc), reflections, crosstalk, or just bad frequency response in your line's connections.
The AT&T techs have even better tools than your RG's bitloading graph to identify issues and you need to get one to use them on your connection.

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10-04-2012 12:17:50 PM
graphicsman wrote:
Graph looks unchanged from what I posted above.
If you haven't already, I think you need to click on this link to send a PM to Alex, one of the AT&T Community Managers, for further assistance. He needs to get some technical attention focused on your account.

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03-14-2013 06:35:20 PM
Having the same issues except only with wireless devices: phones, iPads, laptops. Laptop symptoms are a complete stop in connectivity resulting usually in an unexpected reboot of the modem. Phones attempt to connect, request the password again (which it should already have stored), and then sit on "Obtaining IP address..."
Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated as the wife is constantly on my case about it.
I downloaded the UV realtime program and ran it. Here are my SSs:
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03-18-2013 08:26:39 PM
I'm having issues with my modem's broadband link dropping about once every 12-24 hours usually at night.
Months ago it would only seem to happen very late in the night (about 12 AM - 4 AM) and the link will fully reconnect normally within 1-2 minutes at first it would only affect myself since no one else was using the U-Verse at that time of night.
Except now it seems to be occuring progressively eariler, this week mostly happening between 7 - 12 PM and occuring consistantly on a daily basis from what the error chart shows.
Today and earlier this week it disconnects everything including the phones, all TVs, and the internet for the 2 minutes it takes to retrain the link and turn the broadband link light from flashing red to solid green. This is inconviencing my household and is no longer an issue that can be ignored if it happens everyday during normal use.
My family who is responsible for the U-Verse account and service has had issues with customer service in the past spending many hours on the phone and waiting to resolve repeat problems that have already been troubleshooted and it takes a lot of steps just for them to send out a tech to check the lines.
Can someone provide me with a direct phone number to a higher support tier considering I believe this is an issue with the physical connection which would most likely require a technician to diagnose.
Thanks in advance. Here's the UVRT data.
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03-19-2013 06:41:15 AM
KemikalElite, you definitely seem to be having line problems. I don't have a different telephone number for you, but if you've exhausted your patience with the normal AT&T support channels, Please click this
Customer Service link to send a Private Message (PM) to the AT&T customer service team to help you resolve your request. You can expect a reply via return PM (the blue envelope
in the upper right hand corner of this site) in a business day or three.

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03-19-2013 07:11:33 PM
For when the tech comes i want to make sure they can access the network as needed. I know they use the laptops for diagnostic reasons. I have added a third party WiFi access point for better speed with WPA2 and I've fully disabled the WiFi on the RG.
does the RG WiFi need to be back on for them to fix the issue? Can I leave the SSID Broadcast off or does it need to be default settings?
Honestly how does that work? can the techs just access any ATT home network they want without authentication because I've seen service trucks just parked around homes doing nothing and it makes me wonder if they piggyback on the wireless or something.
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05-13-2013 09:17:52 PM - edited 05-13-2013 09:36:02 PM
I could have written just about any of the above postings, and have taken similar steps to resolve my U-verse frequent interruptions of TV, Broadband, and Voice. In an attempt to log the numerous outages, first I logged them manually, but I can't sit in front of the TV all day. Since my TV outage almost always also included an outage of broadband and my phone service, after numerous tech visits I wanted to be able to furnish accurate data to see if there might be a pattern. I found a freeware program (Internet Connectivity Monitor) that checks and logs my connectivity at specified intervals; I chose every minute 24/7.
Now for the mystery....Since starting this log 3 days ago I haven't had a SINGLE interruption or outage, and this is confirmed by the U-verse router log; I had been experiencing dozens a day. Since I don't believe this is because U-verse knows I'm watching it, I'm looking for some answer other than coincidence. Is it possible that during periods of broadband inactivity the connection goes to sleep? If so, is it also possible that my ICM logging program, by keeping the connection awake, is circumventing some problem in the sleep/wakeup routine? Yes, I know I'm grasping at straws, but there has to be an answer to an annoying problem being experienced by so many. Thanks
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05-19-2013 04:47:56 PM
My luck ran out, it must have been coincidental that the outages stopped when I began logging every glitch. Yesterday I had 35 TV, Voice, and Internet interruptions, most lasting only a few minutes, and today there's at least another half dozen. Nonetheless, now I have zero confidence in my U-verse system, so tomorrow it's back to requesting tech visits. Very discouraging!








