09-15-2012 10:38:25 AM - last edited on 09-15-2012 04:43:18 PM by Phil-101
Uverse 2wire 3801 HGV & WRT600N advice p
I'm not happy with the wireless performance at all as well as throughput isn't that great either. The Tech that came to my house, said to not use its wireless and to look for other ways to approach it.
I have tried to do this myself without luck, I have tried the following without luck
1. Set my WRT600n's WAN interface to get an IP address via DHCP. I did this so that the 2Wire recognized my router.
2. I plugged my router's WAN interface to one of the 2Wire's LAN interfaces.
3. I restarted my router to let it get an IP address via DHCP.
4. I logged into the 2Wire router's interface. then under Settings -> Firewall -> Applications, Pinholes, and DMZ I did the following:
a. selected my router under section (1).
b. clicked the DMZPlus button under section (2).
c. Clicked the Save button.
5. I then restarted my 600n, when it got an address via DHCP again, it gave it a public outside IP address. At this point, I have tried both leaving my router in DHCP mode (making sure the firewall on my 600n allows the DHCP renewal packets by putting in the command iptables -I INPUT -p udp --sport 67 --dport 68 -j ACCEPT. then when that didn't work I deleted teh command and I changed my 600ns IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and used the same settings it received via DHCP.
6. On the 2Wire router, I went to Settings -> Firewall -> Advanced Configuration
a. I unchecked the following: Stealth Mode, Block Ping, Strict UDP Session Control.
b. I checked everything under Outbound Protocol Control except NetBIOS.
c. I unchecked NetBIOS under Inbound Protocol Control.
d. I unchecked all the Attack Detection checkboxes (7 of them).
e. I clicked save.
NONE OF THIS WORKED.
SO, I'm looking for advice on where to go next I have put quite a bit of detail here trying to make it a bit easier. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this.
I want to setup my Linksys WRT600N V1.1 behind the 3801 but I have searched everywhere and I'm not sure I know what is the best step. I have already put DD-wrt V24 megabin on the 600n.
Although I thought I was fairly smart with how to configure switches, it guess its been to long.
After I flashed the wrt600n I was trying to figure how to set it up and realized I need some help.
SO I have put some significant details below on what I have I'm pretty open to ideas but I don't want to pay a fortune if I can help it. The reason I was going to use the WRT600N is its new and I haven't used it and I thought it would be able to do N and more so here I am.
I hate to write so much but I wanted to provide enough detail to make it easier to give me advice.
I am in the Atl. GA area, I have AT&T Uverse. Currently with 24mb Max service. My profile is set to 32,341 Kbps down and 5,040 Kbps upstream UV Real-time v220.127.116.11 says my Wan is 4HD | Ingress 1SD/3H | Egress 0SD/3HD I have 1 line VOIP service from them and the 300 pkg.
My Modem is a 2Wire 3801HGV Router Hardware version 000778-004 running Software version 18.104.22.168-enh.tm
I have 3 HD Receivers one them is the DVR and all 3 are connected via Cat5E.
2 Desktop PC's connected via Cat 5e
1 Xbox connected via Cat 5e
1 Roku HD receiver via Cat 5E
1 Apple TV connected via wireless
1 Onkyo receiver via cat 5e
1 Oki5200NE Printer via cat 5e
1 Dlink NDS 323 NAS via cat 5e
3 Iphone 4's wireless
1 Ipad3 via wireless
2 notebook computers via wireless
All of my hardwire Lan is CAT5E and I have certified it over a GB with a lancat. all the cables are run to a 48 port patch panel and then I currently have jumpers going from the patch panel to a Netgear ProSafe 24 Port 10/100 Switch Model (23 JFS524).
Until recently I had 1 jumper from the 3801HGV to the switch and then everything else was connected to the switch or running on the wireless from the 3801HGV.
Recently a Uverse tech said that I should consider connecting the Uverse receivers directly to the 3801HGV bypassing the switch. and to turn off the wireless on the 3801HGV and use a different wireless networking device.
I thought it made more sense to have a smart switch that would know what do to better than the 2wire device and could route traffic better but
I had a few small switches to make it easier to have service in some areas of the house but at the moment I’ve removed them.
I have a few gigabit switches that I can use
I had wanted a new gigabit smart switch 24 port but the family didn’t' talk with each other and I have the following:
1 Netgear Prosafe Plus GS108E opened but unused yet
1 Netgear Prosafe G108 new in sealed box
1 Netgear GS608 new is sealed box
I had really hoped to have 1 16-24 port smart switch as I thought it would do a better job of managing traffic If I’m right then please let me know what the best one to use would be,
For wireless I was going to use a Linksys WRT600N V1.1 ( I have just loaded the suggested .V24 Mega Generic Bin onto it after a 30 30 30 reset and I have done a 30 30 30 reset.
I also have all kinds of Linksys routers new in box that are of all different types but all are older.
my thought was to put all 3 STB's connecting directly to the 2wire 3801HGV and use the WRT600N using dd-wrtv24 for everything else in my network.
I was going to take port 4 out of the 3801hgv and go into the WAN port on the 600n and then come out of 1 of the Lan ports on the 600N and go back down to the basement into a switch for the rest of the house, I thought a smart switch would have been better than the ones I have listed above but I'm very open to ideas and thoughts.
I wasn’t' sure if I should use a netgear smart switch or a trendnet smart switch as I'm trying to save $$ but also do this once.
One last item,
If it’s possible and advisable from others thoughts I wanted to consider disconnecting the VOIP phone service from AT&T (I get very few calls and make very few and I don’t want to spend $40. For that type of use) and switching to OOMA if that is a workable situation with this (or another voip someone can suggest that would be better) how would I connect that into this setup?
Thank you for your help and all the posts that got me to where I am already.
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09-16-2012 02:35:55 PM
Rather an review your long post, I will tell you about my setup. I am using my own router plugged into a LAN port on my Uverse box, but all my TV receivers are wired directly to the Uverse box. I just use wireless exclusively for my PC's and wired for my Uverse box, blueray player, and Slingboxes. They are on different networks this way, but I don't need them to be on the same network. You can either choose to disable the Uverse wireless or ignore it.
I don't think the Uverse TV receivers can go through your second router.
Hope some of this is helpful.
09-17-2012 06:15:21 AM
I tried to read through your post yesterday. Basically, I finished without a clear understanding of what "NONE OF THIS WORKED" meant and exactly what you had tried and what the symptoms were at each step.
I see that you have put a large amount of time in to this, and have a farily substantial amount of time in typing it up for us. Unfortunately, I can't get my head around it. Maybe another reader will have better luck.
09-18-2012 01:29:55 PM
Forgive me but I also got lost part way through your first post. For simplicity.....here is what I did.....
My dual band NetGear wireless router is connected to one of the Ethernet ports on the 2-Wire 3801. Our three HD TV's remain connected to the output of the 2-Wire 3801.
My desktop PC is connected to Ethernet port on the NetGear router.
Our two laptops, one iPad, one iPhone & HP printer/scanner connect wirelessly to the NetGear router.
I accessed the wireless function of the 2-wire 3801 and turned it off. Made no other settings changes.
All PC's use Win 7 and everything is part of our Home Network. The PC's all see and can access each other's HDD's.
The NetGear N600 dual band router requires no software installation. Never had anything so simple to set up in my life.
We use the 5 gHz band for wireless because our neighbors are ALL on 2.4 gHz band and congestion during evening hours was slowing our wireless Internet connections to less than 1 mbps down. Now we have 16.5 to 17.80 mbps download speed on all of our computers....both wired and wireless....no matter what time of day. We are only home on the 5 gHz band.
Simple, simple, simple.
11-18-2012 08:08:24 AM
I just had it with Uverse's wireless connectivity and decided to go back to my old (pre Uverse, that is) router. I heard it couldn't be done and what you described is pretty much what I was going to try first... I am definitely going for it now
AND I happen to have a NetGear N600 dual band as well! (You are absolutely right, easiest set up ever).
Once again, thank you for sharing. You made me even register in this forum just to thank you, haha.
01-27-2013 01:37:16 PM - edited 01-27-2013 01:56:39 PM
"I accessed the wireless function of the 2-wire 3801 and turned it off. Made no other settings changes."
How do you do this and what is the defalt username and password? I have a 2Wire 3600HVG gateway.
P.S. Can I change the SSID or must it stay 2wireXXX?
01-31-2013 06:49:18 AM
I read your response and would like to ask you a question as it seems you know what you are doing! I just relocated to Michigan and chose Uverse to run all of my stuff. The challenge I am having is that my voip phone, which is plugged directly into the Uverse 2wire router, is constantly dropping calls. I have been on with support people at ATT at least a half dozen times and they offered no explanation, except to upgrade my download speed. Turns out that the problem is not download speed, but the fact that the 2wire router is incompatible with voip phones, other than those offered by ATT. This is my business phone so don't want to change to their phone and their service. My question is this: If I were to switch to the NetGear router you mentioned, it sounds like I would get a better and strong signal. In Texas, my voip phone plugged into my computer and the computer ran off of wireless connection with a linksys system. It worked beautifully but internet was provided by a cable company and not Uverse. I know this is very different from your situation, but am wondering if you have an opinion as to whether I might get better data transfer by moving away from using the 2wire for wireless. The readings I am getting on the phone's uploads and downloads are that the packet loss is high, meaning the data is being broken up in transmission, even though download speed is strong. Jeez....I know it is crazy to ask you this, but I have truly hit a brick wall with the support people at ATT. If I can't fix this, then I will have to drop ATT and switch to local cable provider who has a pretty dismal reputation...
01-31-2013 08:25:30 AM
Do you not have an IT support group at your company to assist on the VOIP phone they provided?
As long as you have a network connection it should work. If you have any special requirements, you need that IT support to direct you.