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Time Warner Cable Sports to Tip Off Lakers-Centric RSNs on Oct. 1

It will be interesting to see what type of carriage issues arise with these new sports channels.  Here is an excerpt from the article found in the link below:

 

It's official now: Time Warner Cable will tip off its two regional sports networks, centering on the Los Angeles Lakers, on Oct. 1.


The largest MSO in Los Angeles will bow Time Warner Cable SportsNet and Spanish-language RSN Time Warner Cable Deportes, which will have its own production team and programming sensibilities, shortly before the National Basketball Association begins its 2012-13 season, according to Time Warner Cable Sports president David Rone.


The foundation for the services was established in February 2011, when Time Warner Cable secured local rights to the Lakers -- whose games have been televised by Fox Sports West and KCAL-TV -- for a 20-year period in a deal that is reportedly valued at $3 billion. Since then, Time Warner Cable Sports also gained rights to the defending Major League Soccer champion Los Angeles Galaxy and the WNBA's Los Angeles Sparks.

Rone, in an interview, said Time Warner Cable counts some 2 million customers in the RSNs' territory that extends from "Fresno to the north, the Mexican border to the south, east to Palm Springs and Las Vegas, and Hawaii to the west." All told, those areas encompass some 6 million TV homes.



Rone said that he, senior vice president and general manager of Time Warner Cable Sports Regional Networks Mark Shuken and Dan Finnerty, the senior vice president of Time Warner Cable Sports, who heads affiliate sales, recently began discussions with potential distributors.

 

"We have not had many of them, they literally began last week. In between now and the NCTA Cable Show [which starts May 21 in Boston}, we will have gotten in front of all of the MVPDs that we need to speak to. I'm stressing MVPDs because we're speaking to MSOs, satellite companies and telcos."


Rone would not discuss pricing. Published reports have placed the ask at $3.50 per subscriber for the pair of networks. For his part, ISI Group analyst Vijay Jayant pegs the price at $2.50 per month per subscriber.



A former  executive at Fox Sports, CAA and Evolution Media Capital, Rone did say Time Warner Cable Sports' distribution game plan calls for equal footing for the services.

 

http://www.multichannel.com/article/484345-Time_Warner_Cable_Sports_to_Tip_Off_Lakers_Centric_RSNs_on_Oct_1.php

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In see both Time Warner Cable SportsNet HD (channel 1777) and Time Warner SportsNet Espanol HD (channel 1778) in the Guide.

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I am an ATT and T U-verse subscriber, but probably not for long.  I was DISGUSTED when I made a phone call to At and T Uverse and the person who answered the phone did NOT KNOW who the LOS ANGELES LAKERS was.  How disgusting is that?


Just because you like the lakers, not everyone is a Lakers fan, NBA fan or even a sports fan.  I could ask my wife who the Lakers are and she couldn't tell you.  My sister, sister-in-law, father-in-law, my mother couldn't tell you who the Lakers are or even what sport they play in.  The Lakers aren't the be-all-end-all.

 

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It always amazes me in situations like that this one of the big companies hasnt stepped up and made a deal to be the first to carry the station and thus gain a ton of LA subscribers that don't want TWC.

But they have to gain enough subscribers to make up for additional costs. They have to have the resources to add the subscribers (it doesn't do any good to get 100,000 orders for service when you have 70,000 DVRs available.

 

There are a lot of factors involved, so it's not quite as simple as you make it.

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Here is another intferesting article on about the new RSN:

 

http://laist.com/2012/10/10/time_warner_and_lakers_a_marriage_m.php

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Simply put ATT U-verse and Time Warner Cable need to find some sort of common ground and get Laker fans in LA our Lakers. I am an ATT u-verse subsriber who is not in the market for TWC, my choices are charter direct tv or ATT uverse.

 

I will glad trade many channels such as the home shopping network, Chicago cubs various view channels, and the Texas longhorn channel and the newly acquired Fox Sport San Diego to watch the Lakers which is my home team.

 

Both TWC and ATT uverse need to get their act together. In Closing WE WANT OUR LAKERS!!!

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Simply put ATT U-verse and Time Warner Cable need to find some sort of common ground and get Laker fans in LA our Lakers. I am an ATT u-verse subsriber who is not in the market for TWC, my choices are charter direct tv or ATT uverse.

 

I will glad trade many channels such as the home shopping network, Chicago cubs various view channels, and the Texas longhorn channel and the newly acquired Fox Sport San Diego to watch the Lakers which is my home team.

 

Both TWC and ATT uverse need to get their act together. In Closing WE WANT OUR LAKERS!!!


The only thing wrong with that statement, you want those channels since they PAY to be broadcast.  The more shopping channels the better, just hide them.

 

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I am at my wit's end with AT&T. I have been calling and e-mailing all kinds of AT&T people to try and get an answer about the new Time Warner Lakers Channel. I understand that TWC is trying to rip off AT&T and other providers because they hold a monopoly on a widely desired product in one of the biggest media markets in the country.

But the lack of communication and information being delivered to us, the existing customers, is ridiculous. I have made it very clear to AT&T that if the TWC is not on my screen by October 31st (and I will pay the freaking $4.99/subscriber fee myself if I have to), I will switch to whichever provider caves in to TWC's demands.

It's ridiculous that those of us in Los Angeles may not be able to see our home team's games. We live in an area that does not have TWC coverage. That means I can't even go to a bar in my neighborhood to watch a game!

Yes I understand that it's just sports and that I probably take this too seriously, but all I want is to watch my freaking games and AT&T will lose me as a customer if they don't figure out a way to make this work for everyone.

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I am at my wit's end with AT&T. I have been calling and e-mailing all kinds of AT&T people to try and get an answer about the new Time Warner Lakers Channel. I understand that TWC is trying to rip off AT&T and other providers because they hold a monopoly on a widely desired product in one of the biggest media markets in the country.

But the lack of communication and information being delivered to us, the existing customers, is ridiculous. I have made it very clear to AT&T that if the TWC is not on my screen by October 31st (and I will pay the freaking $4.99/subscriber fee myself if I have to), I will switch to whichever provider caves in to TWC's demands.

It's ridiculous that those of us in Los Angeles may not be able to see our home team's games. We live in an area that does not have TWC coverage. That means I can't even go to a bar in my neighborhood to watch a game!

Yes I understand that it's just sports and that I probably take this too seriously, but all I want is to watch my freaking games and AT&T will lose me as a customer if they don't figure out a way to make this work for everyone.

Then the only provider you will be able to switch to is Time Warner Cable.  Currenly NO other providers have added this channel.  As for negotiations, AT&T does not provide updates, but then again, neither do the other providers. Enjoy your TWC.

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jstchilln120 wrote:
I am at my wit's end with AT&T. I have been calling and e-mailing all kinds of AT&T people to try and get an answer about the new Time Warner Lakers Channel. I understand that TWC is trying to rip off AT&T and other providers because they hold a monopoly on a widely desired product in one of the biggest media markets in the country.

But the lack of communication and information being delivered to us, the existing customers, is ridiculous. I have made it very clear to AT&T that if the TWC is not on my screen by October 31st (and I will pay the freaking $4.99/subscriber fee myself if I have to), I will switch to whichever provider caves in to TWC's demands.

It's ridiculous that those of us in Los Angeles may not be able to see our home team's games. We live in an area that does not have TWC coverage. That means I can't even go to a bar in my neighborhood to watch a game!

Yes I understand that it's just sports and that I probably take this too seriously, but all I want is to watch my freaking games and AT&T will lose me as a customer if they don't figure out a way to make this work for everyone.

Then the only provider you will be able to switch to is Time Warner Cable.  Currenly NO other providers have added this channel.  As for negotiations, AT&T does not provide updates, but then again, neither do the other providers. Enjoy your TWC.


As I had mentioned earlier, TWC does not provide service where I live.  So unfortunately I have to cross my fingers and hope that AT&T or any other provider in my neighborhood works out a deal.  

 

Hopefully AT&T realizes how big of an issue this is locally/regionally and sees that they will lose subscribers if they don't get this worked out.  It may not be a huge number they care about, but there will be a few that drop if another provider gets this channel (aside from the ones that jump to TWC). 

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jstchilln120 wrote:

oufanindallas wrote:

jstchilln120 wrote:
I am at my wit's end with AT&T. I have been calling and e-mailing all kinds of AT&T people to try and get an answer about the new Time Warner Lakers Channel. I understand that TWC is trying to rip off AT&T and other providers because they hold a monopoly on a widely desired product in one of the biggest media markets in the country.

But the lack of communication and information being delivered to us, the existing customers, is ridiculous. I have made it very clear to AT&T that if the TWC is not on my screen by October 31st (and I will pay the freaking $4.99/subscriber fee myself if I have to), I will switch to whichever provider caves in to TWC's demands.

It's ridiculous that those of us in Los Angeles may not be able to see our home team's games. We live in an area that does not have TWC coverage. That means I can't even go to a bar in my neighborhood to watch a game!

Yes I understand that it's just sports and that I probably take this too seriously, but all I want is to watch my freaking games and AT&T will lose me as a customer if they don't figure out a way to make this work for everyone.

Then the only provider you will be able to switch to is Time Warner Cable.  Currenly NO other providers have added this channel.  As for negotiations, AT&T does not provide updates, but then again, neither do the other providers. Enjoy your TWC.


As I had mentioned earlier, TWC does not provide service where I live.  So unfortunately I have to cross my fingers and hope that AT&T or any other provider in my neighborhood works out a deal.  

 

Hopefully AT&T realizes how big of an issue this is locally/regionally and sees that they will lose subscribers if they don't get this worked out.  It may not be a huge number they care about, but there will be a few that drop if another provider gets this channel (aside from the ones that jump to TWC). 


So basically if AT&T does not have TWC's channel on the air by Oct. 31st you have no where to switch that is carrying the channel?

 

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Called customer service, still negotiating for the channel

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As much as I'm satisfied with U-Verse, I will absolutely switch to TWC if ATT does not make a deal to broadcast the Lakers games.

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As much as I'm satisfied with U-Verse, I will absolutely switch to TWC if ATT does not make a deal to broadcast the Lakers games.


It appears that no TV provider is making a deal.  It's definitely not just U-verse.

 

http://www.sanclementetimes.com/blog/2012/10/18/where-are-the-lakers/

 

Instead of focusing on U-verse, perhaps you should put some pressure on Time Warner.

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What other providers do is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

I will cancel my tv subscription if a deal is not reached.  I only have cable for sports, so if that gets taken away I might as well not buy it anymore.  There are plenty of alternative options.

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Gospy wrote:

 

What other providers do is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

I will cancel my tv subscription if a deal is not reached.  I only have cable for sports, so if that gets taken away I might as well not buy it anymore.  There are plenty of alternative options.


I completely disagree.  The fact that no carriage agreements have been negotiated should tell you something about the strategy being used by Time Warner.

 

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-distribution-negotiations-20121021,0,6757007...

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texasguy37 wrote:

Gospy wrote:

 

What other providers do is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

I will cancel my tv subscription if a deal is not reached.  I only have cable for sports, so if that gets taken away I might as well not buy it anymore.  There are plenty of alternative options.


I completely disagree.  The fact that no carriage agreements have been negotiated should tell you something about the strategy being used by Time Warner.

 

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-distribution-negotiations-20121021,0,6757007...


Gosby: To further add to what Texasguy has said, unless you live in the Regional Sports Network area served by the Lakers, and can get Time Warner Cable at your home, you are completely out of luck with other television providers. There are NOT plenty of options. Your only option at this time is Time Warner Cable.

 

I hope you are not a one and done one post wonder, and will come back to the forum to comment.


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Looks like TWC is having a hard time negotiating carriage of the new Time Warner SportsNet channels:

 

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-lakers-channel-time-warner-cable-20121...

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Charter has signed on to carry the channel. Missed opportunity for Uverse to gain substantial subscribers in socal

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Charter has signed on to carry the channel. Missed opportunity for Uverse to gain substantial subscribers in socal

Not really.  So far none of the "Major" players have signed up for the channel. Sounds like they have over priced themselves.  Sounds like TWC. They were overpriced as a service when I had them but they were the only game in town when I had to use them.

 

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Charter has signed on to carry the channel. Missed opportunity for Uverse to gain substantial subscribers in socal

Charter is a minor player among the providers in the Lakers' market, and as you stated, they only signed a deal today.  Where are DirecTV, Dish and Cox, who are the major players in that market?

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Verizon Fios will carry it now as well as TW is shuffling to make deals before the season kicks off. U-verse will get it I'm sure, but for those of us not in CA it really makes no difference to us so when you say U-Verse is doomed if they don't get it.......not so much.

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Oh Hamburgers, All Southern California TV Providers should say No the LA Lakers pure Greed. Too Bad Charter and Verizon Fios Just Screwed over all Customers. for network that should be offer as a Premium Channel.

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Oh Hamburgers, All Southern California TV Providers should say No the LA Lakers pure Greed. Too Bad Charter and Verizon Fios Just Screwed over all Customers. for network that should be offer as a Premium Channel.


On both TWC and the Lakers.  Way to go Lakers, really showing fan loyalty.

 

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U-Verse has the channel now!!! Im starting to think they had the deal in place already but theyre just announcing it until now, that probably explains why on titan tv it showed TWCLA on channel 1777 and the deportes channel on 1779

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texasguy37 wrote:

It's official!

 

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-lakers-att-20121027,0,6696175.story


Can I start throwing my rants in here about my rates better not go up for a channel that I don't care about and a team that I won't be able to watch.  :smileywink:

 

Time for all the folks who left to feel really bad now.

 

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Do like the Aggies, call AT&T and demand a credit on your bill for this channel you don't care about.  LOL

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Do like the Aggies, call AT&T and demand a credit on your bill for this channel you don't care about.  LOL


It's not like the NBA is going to change blackout rules just because the Lakers now have their own channel.  You still have to be in the Lakers viewing area to see the games. So even if I cared remotely about the Lakers it still wouldn't do me any good.

 

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Looks like it will be channel 1777 on U-100 plans and above! Go Lakers!!

 

http://www.twcsportsnet.com/sportsnet/Press-releases/time-warner-cable-to-be-carried-by-att-102712.h...

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Since U-verse was so nice to sign a deal with the Lakers and add the Longhorn network which is no use to us in Southern California, it would be even nicer if they could add the Pac-12 network in addition.

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So will this only be available to those in So-Cal or Nationwide??  Thanks!

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