06-01-2010 04:40:11 PM
Hello everyone! We had the AT&T tech out here on April 26 to install our U-Verse system. However, none of our components (i.e. VCR, DVD player, stereo receiver, or stereo speakers) were hooked up yet (they weren't unpacked). He just installed the AT&T receiver to our HDTV. We have a brand new Phillips 42" HDTV. The VCR is a late 90's Sony SLV-N71. The DVD player is a 2005 Sony DVPN5V57P. I have these hooked up to a Technics SA-EX300 receiver from the mid-90's powering some 901 Bose speakers which have their own equalizer.
As you can guess, there are many wires everywhere. On top of that we have an early 90's Fisher cassette player/recorder. They all worked fine when we had Comcast basic service (no set up box).
My boyfriend is losing his mind and I'm losing my patience because he cannot get this setup. He bought one HDMI calbe and tried to connect it from the TV to the AT&T receiver and he put the source for the TV to HDMI1 and the TV flashes the picture for a split second and then, shows what souce it's on. He tried it on HDMI 2, then 3 and it does the same thing.
He cannot get the VCR and DVD connected either. Can someone provide a step by step connection guide since AT&T is worthless and they want to send someone out here for $300 to hook it all up. I would really appreciate your help. Oh, and the book provided by AT&T doesn't help. Obviously, otherwise we wouldn't have a bunch of people coming on this message board asking for assistance.
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06-01-2010 05:55:54 PM
Can you also post the model number of the Phillips HDTV? I'll see if I can research some of these components and give you a recommendation.
06-01-2010 06:16:58 PM
It's a Phillips 42PFL3704D. I looked at the back of the tv and the tech hooked up the red, white, and yellow cables from the back of the TV (it says Video 2) to the back of the DVR/AT&T receiver.
We are trying to avoid going through the VCR in order to hear the Bose speakers when we watch tv. We want to be able to play the speakers through our stereo receiver while watching U-Verse.
Thanks for any help you can provide Joe.
06-01-2010 08:33:15 PM
Philips HDTV: Very nice TV. You'll enjoy it.
Sony DVD: A bit older, but a nice DVD player.
Sony VCR: Well, if you still have tapes to watch, then you have to have one.
Technics AVR: OK, this is the equivalent of trying to put a watch together with stone knives and bearskins. This AVR is the component that is stopping you from getting this all hooked up in a good way. It's also very outdated as far as what kinds of audio (moden digital codecs, surround sound, etc.) it can play. Seriously, replace this thing with a modern AV Receiver at your earliest opportunity. Current popular brands are Onkyo, Pioneer, Denon, Sony, and Yamaha.
But if you want all this hooked up, I recommend the following setup. Each numbered item is one set of connections. The proper cable from Monoprice.com is linked to at the end, all cables are 6 feet long.
1. Sony VCR to Philips HDTV: Use a Composite + L/R Audio cable (3x RCA connectors, yellow/red/white) from the VCR out jacks to the Philips HDTV Video 1 In jacks. The Video 1 in jacks are on the back of the Philips TV, they're labeled #5 in your manual on page 28. Monoprice Composite+L/R Audio Cable.
2. Sony DVD to Philips HDTV: Use an S-Video + L/R Audio cable (2x RCA + 1x S-Video, red/white/black) from the DVD output jacks to the Philips HDTV Video 2 in jacks. The Video 2 in jacks are on the side of the Philips TV, they're labeled #10/#11 in your manual on page 28. Monoprice S-Video + L/R Audio Cable.
3. U-Verse to Philips HDTV: Use a Component + L/R audio cable (5x RCA, red/green/blue/red/white) from the U-Verse DVR output jacks to the Philips HDTV Component in jacks. The Component in jacks are on the back of the TV, they're labeled #6 in your manual on page 28. Abandon the HDMI cable and connection because HDMI does not help you due to your audio setup. In fact, it will hurt you because of a black level problem within the U-Verse system. Component connections work better for your situation. Monoprice Component + L/R Audio Cable.
4. Philips TV to Technics AVR: Use a standard L/R audio cable (2x RCA, red/white) from the Philips TV audio output jacks to the Technics AVR VCR1 audio input jacks. The audio output jacks on the Philips TV are on the back, shown as #3 in your manual on page 28. Note that your manual has a misprint, it calls these "Audio Input Jacks" -- they are not, they are output. Monoprice L/R Audio Cable.
5. Fisher tape deck to Technics AVR: Use a standard L/R audio cable (2x RCA, red/white) from the Fisher audio output to the Technics AVR Tape in jacks. (Use same type of cable as #4 -- so you will need two of those).
You will select which device you want to watch on the HDTV by changing the TV input (use the Source button on the remote)
Sony VCR: Video 1
Sony DVD: Video 2
For the Technics AVR, you will leave it on VCR1 to listen to anything except the Fisher tape deck. To listen to that, switch the Technics to Tape instead of VCR1. Switch back to VCR1 to listen to anything else.
1. Menu -> Options -> System Options -> Aspect Ratio -> Set to 1080i on high-definition screens.
2. Menu -> Options -> Audio/Language Options -> Digital Audio Output -> Set to Stereo
3. While watching TV, hit Enter (key below the 9 on the remote) -> Use L/R arrows to go to Zoom, set to Normal.
1. Change the picture format to Normal (use Format button on Remote).
2. Menu -> Picture -> Auto Picture -> Set to Standard
3. Menu -> Sound -> TV Speakers -> Off
06-02-2010 04:56:10 AM
Thanks very much, Joe. I am going to have my boyfriend try this today. I'll let you know how it goes. Yes, we know we need to replace the receiver. Just bought a house, so we have to wait on that.
06-02-2010 05:39:47 PM
Hi, Joe. Your instructions worked GREAT! My boyfriend was able to get it all hooked up today. He couldn't have done it without you (well, maybe, but it would have taken days!). So, again, thanks for all your help. It is greatly appreciated!!!!
06-03-2010 03:32:22 PM
Glad to know you are all set. Enjoy.
05-18-2011 05:46:29 PM
I'm bumping this thread because the problem we are having now is this. When watching a tv program (especially on ABC), the picture will go in and out and Component will flash on the screen. Do we have something hooked up incorrectly? It's been doing this for a long time now, but I never got around to finding this old thread so everyone would know what I'm talking about.
Thanks for any help you can give me!
05-18-2011 06:07:36 PM
In your original post, you mentioned that the TV was doing the same thing with the HDMI connections. This appears to be pointing to a problem with the TV since it's now also exhibiting nearly the same symptom with the component connections.
I'd advise these three possible courses of action:
1. Contact Philips and see if they have a firmware update for your TV. They should be able to send it to you for free if they do (for many TVs, it's installed via a USB flash drive). They should also be able to tell you the procedure to install it.
2. You might try switching the U-Verse box to 720p instead of 1080i:
Menu -> Options -> System Options -> Aspect Ratio -> 720p on high-definition screens
3. Lower the contrast setting on your TV (write down previous settings first so you can set this back if it doesn't work):
Menu -> Picture -> Auto Picture -> set to Standard
Menu -> Picture -> Contrast -> Set to 60
See if one or more of those things mitigate or eliminate the problem.
05-18-2011 06:17:07 PM
How are the TV and STB connected?
Are you saying that the TV screen is displaying the word component?
I believe the original poster was saying that their TV was generating a label on the screen specifying which input is active. It is doing this because it is not detecting a signal on that input.
If you have them same symptoms occuring intermittently, you must have a bad connection in that path. I will guess that you have a component connection ( three RCA jack/plug cables for video and two for audio).
First, make sure the video connections are well connected and matched at each end (same plug nomenclature at STB and TV are connected together). Does any wire in the commection appear broken?
Do you have addl cables you could swap - Do you have addl component inputs you could swap? Do you have addl STBs you could swap?
Swapping is to try to isolate where is the bad connection.
05-19-2011 05:16:38 PM
Joe, yes the TV was cutting out before with the HDMI cables, but it would just stay there and wouldn't come back to the station it was on. In this case, the screen will go black, flash Component for a split second, then the show I am watching will come back. You can still hear the audio when this happens too. The problem before - you could not hear the audio or anything and the program never came back.
I will try your suggestions and see what happens.
05-19-2011 05:19:07 PM
Aviewer, we were thinking of swapping the box from upstairs and seeing if it works without this annoying flash of Component, black screen, back to tv show. It doesn't do this all the time, it's intermittent and it mostly seems to happen with ABC. But, I've also noticed it with other stations, just not as frequently as ABC.
We'll see what happens. I will come back and let you know if Joe's suggestions work. If not, we will swap out the boxes and see if that works.
05-20-2011 07:51:51 PM
If the swapped out box works fine on your hdtv then call cs/ts and request a new stb.
05-23-2011 04:42:14 PM
Well, trying Joe's suggestions of changing the settings on the tv itself worked. We had the tv set to "Game" instead of "Normal" like Joe said to do. Not sure why it was on "Game." Seems to be working fine now. Thanks everyone!
11-25-2011 05:14:47 PM
Well, I was wrong. Just haven't had a chance to come back here. I'm still getting the "Component" flash and black screen sometimes. Also, when I turn on the "box" and go to Recorded programs, it won't do anything. You can't even turn the channel or volume. So, I turn off the tv and turn it back on and then it works.
Question - if I get a new receiver and we hook up everything with HDMI, do you think that will work?
What type of receiver? I am planning to get one for my husband for Christmas. Suggestions? Thanks!
11-25-2011 07:05:19 PM
11-30-2011 06:48:39 PM
I bought him a new receiver that I think will work very well with the components we have now. Can someone go back to the first post in this message and provide assistance in hooking everything up the proper way with the HDMI cables since we will now have a brand new receiver that is capable of handling everything.
11-30-2011 06:57:05 PM
Get him a nice Logitech Harmony remote to control all this great stuff.
11-30-2011 07:13:41 PM
What is the receiver manufacturer and model number?
12-01-2011 04:38:53 AM
I bought him a Onkyo HT-RC260 7.2-Channel Home Theater Receiver. It's not super expensive, but a lot better than what we have now.
So, all we have to do then is use the HDMI cable from the receiver to the tv? How do we hookup the DVD player, the AT&T box, and the VCR?
SomeJoe gave step by step instructions last time. Thanks for all of your help and suggestions! Maybe after we get this hooked up, the stupid tv won't cut out and flash Component on the screen anymore.
12-01-2011 05:28:57 AM
Connect output onkyo - TV HDMI
Connect input onkyo - STB HDMI
Connect input onkyo - DVR component
Connect input onkyo - VCR composite
Connect input onkyo - Fisher tape deck audio jacks
12-05-2011 04:50:23 AM
Don't over-think the connections. Think of the receiver as a funnel taking in the output all your devices and reducing them into the TV.
This lets you use the receiver as the selection switch.
Do you watch Over the Air TV? You will also need an output from the TV in to the Receiver & select this to view OTA.
12-24-2011 08:16:19 AM
I'm not trying to over think the setup. My boyfriend opened his present today and is reading the manual. He's trying to tell me that we don't need HDMI cables and can use component cables. I said that is why we couldn't hook this all up in a modern fashion before! We need the HDMI cables to have this all working the most fabulous way possible. Correct?
12-24-2011 08:43:48 AM
For HD you need either HDMI or component cables. You cannot use coax, composite (yellow, red, white RCA) or s-video.
Component cables have three connections (blue, green, red) for video and two (red/white) for audio.
You should not be able to see/hear any difference between HDMI & component for U-verse. However, if you want 1080p from blue-ray you will need HDMI for that connection. Component only goes up to 1080i.
Check out monoprice.com if you need to buy any cables.
12-26-2011 04:06:49 PM - edited 12-26-2011 04:18:57 PM
OK, he's been trying for 4 hours to hook up everything and it's not working. I'm going to post our components again and see if someone can walk us through step by step how to do this. I have to tell you, my boyfriend is not very good at following the diagrams and is telling me that we can't hook up the Fischer tape deck and he needs that in order for the Bose speakers to work.
Here is what we have:
TV is a Phillips 42PFL3704D
The VCR is a Sony SLV-N71
The DVD player is a 2005 Sony DVPN5V57P.
901 Bose speakers which have their own equalizer.
early 90's Fisher cassette player/recorder
TEAC CD-D1260 CD Player
Here is the receiverr Onkyo HT-RC260 7.2-Channel Home Theater Receiver
So, can someone walk us through hooking all of this up step by step? We have the HDMI cables too.
SomeJOE, you really helped before. I hope you can again! Thank you so much!
12-27-2011 09:17:57 AM
This is actually more difficult than it looks because the Onkyo has to be configured carefully for these inputs. If everything was HDMI it would be easy, but you actually only have one input that's going to be HDMI (the U-verse box). Everything else is something older, and the Onkyo doesn't come pre-configured for that.
OK, you ready? Here we go.
1. Onkyo AV Receiver to Philips TV: Use HDMI cable from Onkyo HDMI Out port to Philips TV HDMI Input 1 port. Use HDMI cable (Monoprice, $3.50).
2. U-Verse Receiver to Onkyo AV Receiver: Use HDMI cable from U-Verse Receiver HDMI Out port to Onkyo HDMI In 3 (Cbl/Sat) port. Use HDMI cable, same as in #1.
3. Sony DVD to Onkyo AV Receiver: Use Component (3x RCA, red/green/blue labeled Y/Pb/Pr) + Digital Audio cable (1x RCA). For the 3x Component cable, go from Sony DVD Component Out jacks (3x) to Onkyo Component In 1 jacks (3x). For the digital audio cable, go from Sony DVD Digital Audio Out jack to Onkyo Digital In Coaxial 1 jack. Use 3x component cable (Monoprice, $2.95) and 1x digital audio cable (Monoprice, $1.28).
4. Sony VCR to Onkyo AV Receiver [This connection is for playback of tapes only]: Use Composite+Audio (3x RCA, red/white/yellow) from Sony VCR Output jacks (3x) to Onkyo VCR/DVR In jacks (3x). Use 3x Composite cable (Monoprice, $2.95).
5. U-Verse Receiver to Sony VCR [This connection is for recording of TV programs on the VCR, you can skip this connection if you don't need to do this]: Use Composite+Audio (3x RCA, red/white/yellow) from U-Verse receiver Composite Output jacks (3x) to Sony VCR Input jacks (3x). Use same cable as #4.
6. Teac 5-CD Changer to Onkyo AV Receiver: Use L/R audio cable (2x RCA, red/white) from Teac Output jacks to Onkyo AV Receiver TV/CD In jacks (2x). Use 2x RCA audio cable (Monoprice, $3.59).
7. Fisher Tape Deck to Onkyo AV Receiver: Use L/R audio cable (2x RCA, red/white) from Fisher Output jacks to Onkyo Game In jacks (2x). Use same cable as #6.
8. Onkyo AV Receiver to Bose 901 Speakers: Use standard speaker wire from Onkyo Front Speaker L + and - to Bose 901 Left speaker, and Onkyo Front Speaker R + and - to Bose 901 Right speaker. You will not be using the 901's equalizer in this setup.
Now we have to configure several of these components to do what we want:
1. Sony DVD player, configure for progressive output: On the back of the Sony DVD player is a slide switch for Normal output or Progressive output. Set it to Progressive.
2. Configure Philips TV:
2a. Set input for HDMI 1: Power on the TV, press the Source button on the remote until you are selected to the HDMI 1 input.
2b. Turn built-in speakers off: Press Menu -> Sound -> TV Speakers -> turn OFF.
2c. Set picture format to Normal: Press Format -> select Normal -> press OK.
3. Configure the Onkyo [this is a pain]:
3a. Configure output resolution: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Input/Output Assign -> Enter. Select Monitor Out -> Enter. Select Auto -> Enter.
3b. Configure input mappings: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Input/Output Assign -> Enter. Select HDMI Input -> Enter. Set each setting as follows:
(Leave remaining selections at their defaults)
3c. Configure more input mappings: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Input/Output Assign -> Enter. Select Component Video Input -> Enter. Set each setting as follows:
(Leave remaining selections at their defaults)
3d. Configure yet more input mappings: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Input/Output Assign -> Enter. Select Digital Audio Input -> Enter. Set each setting as follows:
(Leave remaining selections at their defaults)
3e. Configure speaker settings: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Speaker Setup -> Enter. Select Speaker Settings -> Enter. Set each setting as follows:
Speaker Type: Normal
3f. Configure more speaker settings: On the Onkyo remote, press Receiver -> Setup -> select Speaker Setup -> Enter. Select Speaker Configuration -> Enter. Set each setting as follows:
Front: Full Band
(Leave all other settings at their defaults)
3g. Use the Onkyo's built-in equalization mechanism to apply room-specific and speaker-specific settings: Follow the directions in the Onkyo's manual on pages 23 and 24 to to use the Audyssey 2EQ system with the calibrated microphone supplied with the Onkyo.
4. Configure U-Verse receiver:
4a. Configure output resolution: Select CBL/SAT on the Onkyo Remote to select the U-Verse receiver, and turn the U-Verse receiver on. Menu -> Options -> System Options -> Aspect Ratio -> Set to 1080i on high-definition screens.
4b. Configure digital audio output: Menu -> Options -> Audio/Language Options -> Digital Audio Output -> Set to Surround
4c. Configure aspect ratio: While watching TV, hit Enter (key below the 9 on the remote) -> Use L/R arrows to go to Zoom, set to Normal.
You can select which item you want to watch/listen to using the Onkyo's source selection buttons:
BD/DVD: Sony DVD Player
VCR/DVR: Sony VCR
CBL/SAT: U-Verse receiver
GAME: Fisher Tape desk
TV/CD: Teac CD changer
You have many audio listening modes available on the Onkyo, you will have to try them to see which sounds best with the Bose speakers. Check the Onkyo manual pages 28-32 for information on the listening modes. You may need different listening modes for different components.
12-27-2011 09:47:26 AM
12-27-2011 02:07:02 PM
SomeJoe, you don't know how much I appreciate this! You are simply the best and I am very grateful for your help in this. I guess my boyfriend wasn't losing his mind when he was trying to tell me that this is very complicated.
Yes, I know we have older components and we could go out and buy an HDMI DVD player. But, what about the tape deck and the VCR? I mean, we really do not absolutely need the VCR because I plan to convert the VHS tapes to DVD (just the ones we really want). After that, we can pack up the VCR and store it away.
Anyway, thanks so much for your help. My boyfriend won't have time to play around with this until the weekend. I'll let you al know how it goes! Thank you!!!!!