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Is this normal?
Edited by Ann154 on Apr 11, 2011 at 4:35:24 AM

Okay I am getting to point where I need to decide if I am keeping this HTC Aria.  At work in the middle of tall building and concrete, the AT&T signal is great.  They have been there for awhile.  At home where the network is new, I can agree that their have delivered on their promise to be similar to the network I had before.  However if I go out of my home town just a few miles, the signal drops quickly to EDGE or GPRS.  It may be good voice signal strength, but I have to use my phone as my sole source for the internet when I am in that area for extended periods of time.  This area had Verizon 3G.  It might have been on their lower end of 3G, but I could easily use it without noticing a drop in speed.

 

Is normal EDGE speeds?

50 kbps down, 72 kbps up, 1188 ms

111 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1333 ms

111 kbps dn, 78 kbps up, 957 ms

122 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1095 ms

 

Are these normal 3G (HSPA) (selected results) speeds?

389 kbps dn, 129 kbps up, 388 ms (lowest test)

405 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 256 ms

619 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 389 ms

726 kbps dn, 92 kbps up, 542 ms

990 kbps dn, 131 kbps up, 423 ms

1212 kbps dn, 102 kbps up, 184 ms

1546 kbps dn, 136 kbps up, 1506 ms

1868 kbps dn, 114 kbps up, 356 ms (highest test)

 

For comparison Verizon 3G (selected results)

1751 kbps dn, 828 kbps up, 287 ms (highest test)

1555 kbps dn, 738 kbps up 257 ms

1202 kbps dn, 537 kbps up, 332 ms

985 kbps dn, 806 kbps up, 316 ms

880 kbps dn, 352 kbps up, 349 ms

594 kbps dn, 834 kbps up, 278 ms

428 kbps dn, 388 kbps up, 534 ms

244 kbps dn, 432 kbps up, 314 ms (lowest test)

126 kbps dn, 168 kbps 12 ms (I think this one was 1x)

 

All the speed tests were done with Ookla's speedtest.net app for android.

 

The download speeds seems to be about equal between networks.  The upload for AT&T is just SAD.  The ping latency on AT&T can vary a bit.  I only put one example of the 3G on here, but there were others that were in the 1000+ ms for tests.  The EDGE latency is just as bad. 

 

What do you as AT&T users think?

 

Can AT&T's signal range widely while been in one place?  I went from displaying three bars to zero in the span of minutes.  It will do this all day in my home.

 

Sorry for the blurry camera shots.  The other phone just couldn't focus that close.

 

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Hmm... If you are having upload/download (in terms of speed) issues, I would give up the Aria and head back to Verizon. I can see that you are in a difficult situation. If Verizon's coverage was more widespread and essentially, quicker than you are experiencing with AT&T, I do not see why you wouldn't want to head back over there. :smileywink: I like Verizon, but they are a bit on the pricey side. Most people would say, "AT&T and Verizon have the same pricing structure", but really, Verizon's pricing plans jump ahead just slightly over equally what AT&T has to offer.

I may switch back to Verizon in a few years. Overall, they have been good, and I always had a great signal. The only problem I had was the pricing and the phone (needed a new battery BADLY).

This morning, I had forgot to bring something along with me, called my home, explained what I had forgotten, and hoped that I would get it. Unfortunately, in the middle of the call...it dropped. I had no idea what had happened to it. All I knew was, I was happy that I had explained for the most part what I needed.

If the AT&T network satisfies, Ann154, keep the Aria. If not, your HTC Droid Eris is always welcoming you with open arms... :smileywink:

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I don't know what area you're in Ann.  Testing on the Washington DC server, I get the below this morning in a concrete building near a window:

 

ping      download    upload

272ms   569kbps    1145kbps

277ms   461kbps    1044kbps

253ms   427kbps    1153kbps

200ms   565kbps    123kbps

290ms   889kbps    77kbps 

 

I used the Ookla Speedtest and have 3G service.  I'm rarely in Edge or GPRS areas.

 

From home (still on Washington DC's server) on tests from February 23, I got the following:

 

ping      download    upload

335ms   960kbps    1258kbps

1859ms 3978kbps   1647kbps

238ms   3577kbps  1698kbps

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The EDGE tests were outside. The 3G tests were a mix of outside and in various buildings home and work.

This is another example. I should have been home at this time.
http://www.speedtest.net/android/43993307.png

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I havent havent installed theapp yet but need to, but afraid to look at my results. Att does fluctuate like that. But ihave seen some sad upload speed on my endas well. I have a call (which I am sure att support has closed , with out any followup whatsoever) where I am sitting in an office bldg with 3G signal andfull bars showing. I turn offwifi and attempt to load google to the surprise of it timing out saying page not available..yep thatsnations fastest network for you Then I try same thing going outside, etc, moving arounnd, standimg still..nope, no go , so I said. Ole att need some help. I turn wifi ack on and sure enough. The pages zoomed. both inside and outside the bldg. So I did this sickening scenario over and again so to know what to say when I call csr nighmare line. Long story short : sitti.g in the middle of one of the already upgraded cities with the highest signal and bars displayed which tells me I am connected to the nations fastest network, and with wifi, it connected, I even uploaded a sample file to youtube. .but under same conditions and turning off wifi. It crawled to a stop. CSR nighmare: their response......... Its the phone.

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I'm not sure if the metro area I work has been upgraded to HSPA+ network. The HTC Aria isn't capable of the plus side of that network.

The other thing I noticed this morning in a full bars location. The HTC Aria was seeing -79 dbm 17asu for signal strength. I am positive I would be -65 dbm in the same location on the Verizon network. From different articles from I have read, the higher the dbm, the better the signal. -104 dbm is the pits, -90 dbm is decent. -75 is very good, and -60 is wonderful.

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Hmm... If you are having upload/download (in terms of speed) issues, I would give up the Aria and head back to Verizon. I can see that you are in a difficult situation. If Verizon's coverage was more widespread and essentially, quicker than you are experiencing with AT&T, I do not see why you wouldn't want to head back over there. :smileywink: I like Verizon, but they are a bit on the pricey side. Most people would say, "AT&T and Verizon have the same pricing structure", but really, Verizon's pricing plans jump ahead just slightly over equally what AT&T has to offer.

I may switch back to Verizon in a few years. Overall, they have been good, and I always had a great signal. The only problem I had was the pricing and the phone (needed a new battery BADLY).

This morning, I had forgot to bring something along with me, called my home, explained what I had forgotten, and hoped that I would get it. Unfortunately, in the middle of the call...it dropped. I had no idea what had happened to it. All I knew was, I was happy that I had explained for the most part what I needed.

If the AT&T network satisfies, Ann154, keep the Aria. If not, your HTC Droid Eris is always welcoming you with open arms... :smileywink:

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I might tweak the Eris again, but I keep hearing Thunder in the background. :smileywink:

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Apr 11, 2011 3:53:09 PM
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Of course! :smileyvery-happy:

 

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You had to put that picture up! Willpower just eating itself away. :smileyvery-happy:

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Indeed. It is nice looking, isn't it? Android at its finest. :smileywink:

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It looks even better next to the other two. :smileywink:

 

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Wild Banchi wrote:

Indeed. It is nice looking, isn't it? Android at its finest. :smileywink:


That Wild Banchi is a riot!  :smileywink:

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Thanks, RicoLX. :smileywink: Ann154, you actually HAVE a Thunderbolt? :smileysurprised:

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Edited by Ann154 on Apr 12, 2011 at 3:42:07 AM
As of last night, YEP! It so pretty next to the "babies" isn't it?

Typing from it now. I wonder what the "mobile posted from" will think it is?

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Well the ADR6300 is the closest it has gotten so far. That's the model number for the HTC DROID Incredible.

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Cool! Are you just trying it out for a while? Or paying two separate phone bills, now? That would be very cool to own.

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Separate for the moment. After Easter, I will be porting my phone number back to the carrier it started at and onto the new Thunderbolt. I have a temporary number on the Tbolt for now.

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I see. :smileywink: Do you plan on selling the Droid Eris? And returning the Aria?

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Sending the Aria packing back to AT&T with shipment tracking and insurance.

I am thinking of sprinkling the Eris with Ginger since there is an official CyanogenMod 7 ROM for it. Will be the backup device. I might activate after the number port for a while and then go back to the Thunderbolt.

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Latest test side by side the Aria and the Thunderbolt. The ping time and upload, it was no contest.

HTC Aria
http://www.speedtest.net/android/45038755.png
http://www.speedtest.net/android/45040011.png

HTC Thunderbolt
http://www.speedtest.net/android/45038730.png
http://www.speedtest.net/android/45039980.png

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Wow. That Thunderbolt blew the Aria away! :smileysurprised: That thing must really be quick!

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The funny thing is that I could get those speeds on the Eris. Plus that was on standard 3G EDVO signal. The 4G LTE network isn't even available in this area yet.

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From the speedtest readings, you're in Nebraska? If your Eris is capable of those speeds, I'd like to see what that Thunderbolt can do. Maybe there's some "4G" in other parts of your state?

Still, either are quicker than your AT&T Aria...

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The links posted today were from the Thunderbolt. The Eris stayed home on airplane mode.

The speed tests in the original post were the results from the Eris.

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21stNow wrote:

I don't know what area you're in Ann.  Testing on the Washington DC server, I get the below this morning in a concrete building near a window:

 

ping      download    upload

272ms   569kbps    1145kbps

277ms   461kbps    1044kbps

253ms   427kbps    1153kbps

200ms   565kbps    123kbps

290ms   889kbps    77kbps 

 

I used the Ookla Speedtest and have 3G service.  I'm rarely in Edge or GPRS areas.

 

From home (still on Washington DC's server) on tests from February 23, I got the following:

 

ping      download    upload

335ms   960kbps    1258kbps

1859ms 3978kbps   1647kbps

238ms   3577kbps  1698kbps


I was in an EDGE zone yesterday and used SpeedTest.net with an without wifi. to see what i get. I only ran it once (wasnt in the area too long).

 

EDGE

ping        download           upload

11ms      151kbps           74kbps

 

WI-FI

ping        download           upload

79ms      2768kbps           670kbps

 

 

 

 

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RicoLX,
Well your up and down speed matches what I was seeing on the EDGE network with the Aria. The ping rate is a heck of a lot nicer than what I was experiencing. Now that I look at it again, that speed results lines up nicely with the 1x speeds of the CDMA network here.

Still happier with the Eris or the Thunderbolt :smileywink:

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Got a new peak test today on the Tbolt. It beat the fastest one I posted on here for the Aria.

Test Date: Apr 18, 2011 7:14:28 pm
> Connection Type: Ehrpd
> Download: 1913 kbps
> Upload: 466 kbps
> Ping: 314 ms

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The AT&T network continues to both surprise and disappoint me. I'm at he farthest west location I travel within the CMA that was switched from Verizon to AT & T. The surprise: I am connecting to Edge here. Shocking I know. However I think it is actually on a regional GSM carrier that AT&T and T-Mobile has a roaming agreement with. Actually drove by one of the regional carrier's stores today (I knew it was on the way and planned to stop). Learned something new. All the GSM phones they sell are unlocked to start with.

Okay back to the reason for this post.
AT&T phone, edge network at -95 dbm 9 asu, 2-3 bars, slower than dirt data transfer, voice call quality = passed. I made a 5 minute call. It didn't drop. Yeah!

Verizon phone, EDVO 3G network at -100 dbm, 0-1 bars (it still connects with zero bars highlighted), download range 400 - 1670 kbps, upload 93 - 587 kbps, ping 300 - 350 ms. Wide range of course. The thing is I don't notice a big difference in speed compared to full bars. I can connect to the Internet and type this post. :smileywink:

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Ann154 wrote:
The AT&T network continues to both surprise and disappoint me. I'm at he farthest west location I travel within the CMA that was switched from Verizon to AT & T. The surprise: I am connecting to Edge here. Shocking I know. However I think it is actually on a regional GSM carrier that AT&T and T-Mobile has a roaming agreement with. Actually drove by one of the regional carrier's stores today (I knew it was on the way and planned to stop). Learned something new. All the GSM phones they sell are unlocked to start with.

Okay back to the reason for this post.
AT&T phone, edge network at -95 dbm 9 asu, 2-3 bars, slower than dirt data transfer, voice call quality = passed. I made a 5 minute call. It didn't drop. Yeah!

Verizon phone, EDVO 3G network at -100 dbm, 0-1 bars (it still connects with zero bars highlighted), download range 400 - 1670 kbps, upload 93 - 587 kbps, ping 300 - 350 ms. Wide range of course. The thing is I don't notice a big difference in speed compared to full bars. I can connect to the Internet and type this post. :smileywink:

Hey Ann(droid154) sound like some progress was made.  I have to say that  i have had the BEST call quality over last two years. I think AT&T really worked on the call drop issues that they were plagued with for so long. Now they are working on the data speed . lets see what unfolds over next year.

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Today I noticed these results using speedtest.net 3g Full bars and not using wi-fi+ Ping download upload 291 1319 329

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